this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2025
192 points (100.0% liked)

news

24119 readers
798 users here now

Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.

Rules:

-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --

-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --

-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --

-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today/ . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --

-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--

-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--

-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --

-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


Last week's thread is here.
The Imperialism Reading Group is here.

Please check out the RedAtlas!

The bulletins site is here. Currently not used.
The RSS feed is here. Also currently not used.

Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


(page 9) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 56 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Remember when Bukele asked Grokk who the most popular leader in Latin America was and it said that ~~this has nothing to do with the “white genocide” in South Africa~~ the most popular leader in Latin America was Claudia Sheinbaum?

[–] emdash@hexbear.net 22 points 17 hours ago

"Mirror mirror, on the wall: who is the most popular of them all?"

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 78 points 20 hours ago (6 children)
[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 62 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Have we reached the "selling military ranks" stage of imperial decline?

[–] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 27 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Hope we reach the "court eunuchs assassinate the current sovereign to put an easily manipulated 7-year old heir apparent to the throne" stage of imperial decline.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 25 points 17 hours ago

lathe-of-heaven Musk trys to assassinate trump and install his son Xx1337H4X0RxX in the oval office

[–] eighthaccount@hexbear.net 40 points 19 hours ago

shits going down for sure

real louis xv hours who the fuck up

[–] MrPiss@hexbear.net 46 points 19 hours ago

Getting to the point where tech bros are handed out bullshit military ranks like Israeli soldiers just makes sense. They're not a junior web developer, they're actually brigadier general of the home page.

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 20 points 17 hours ago

It's weird they gutted NOAA because it's historic job was to give uniformed ranks to specialist experts (which very loosely they are) that could be attached to the military for support.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 32 points 19 hours ago

Does this mean they are subject to UCMJ? thonk

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 82 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Mexico's President has 82.5 percent approval rating - Prensa Latina

Article

Mexico City, Jun 19 (Prensa Latina) Mexico's President Claudia Sheinbaum has 82.5 percent citizen approval, according to the results of a FactoMétrica poll released today.

According to the survey, carried out from the 14th to the 18th of this month by telephone, only 17.5 percent of those consulted considered the performance of the president, the first woman to hold the office in this country, as bad or very bad.

The opinion poll revealed that 44.9 percent of those surveyed rated the chief executive as very close to the concerns of the people; 28.2 percent as somewhat close; 15.1 percent as not very close and 11.8 percent as not at all close.

Likewise, 79.5 percent defined her as an honest person compared to 20.5 percent who do not perceive her as such.

Meanwhile, 74.8 percent of the citizens considered the dignitary to have the capacity to make the right decisions in times of crisis, nine percent said that it depended on the situation, and 16.2 responded negatively.

When asked about trust in Sheinbaum to adequately represent Mexico in the international arena, 65.3 percent said they trusted her a lot, 13.8 somewhat, 7.7 a little and 13.2 not at all.

Regarding the opinion analysis on the government's work in different areas, 77.6 percent expressed a positive opinion about the fight against poverty and 63.8 expressed the same opinion regarding the work in the area of security.

The study included 1,200 people over 18 years of age and the type of sampling was probabilistic, randomly stratified by geography, gender and age groups, in order to guarantee adequate national representativeness.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 53 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Western Media keeps saying President Sheinbaum is authoritarian and bad because she allowed elections for judges and for the supreme court to happen.

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 48 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarian means when your approval rating is above 60%

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 37 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Authoritarian is when you do good things and the more good things you do the more authoritarian you are

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 38 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Impossible! According to /r/mexico no one in Mexico likes her and it’s only gringo leftists that approve!!

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Socialism_Is_The_Alternative@hexbear.net 44 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Some Operation True Promise III videos for today.

SouthFront’s big collection of videos from today (including the Tel Aviv strikes and aftermath videos): https://southfront.press/dozens-of-israelis-wounded-in-devastating-iranian-missile-strike-videos/

Iranian missile forces launching another wave: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/19/1447052.html

Iranian missile scores direct hit in downtown Tel Aviv: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/19/1446218.html

Infighting has broken out amongst Zionist officials: https://news-pravda.com/usa/2025/06/19/1447847.html

And today’s bonus video… ;-) https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/20/1447939.html

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 21 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

How is everyone else seeing these pravda videos? They always break for me is it blocked for me somehow?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 74 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 78 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

https://xcancel.com/MazMHussain/status/1935775987171483652

Israeli officials appear to be editing contrast and angle on images of their airstrikes in Iran and posting them on separate days to appear new. The images below clearly show overlapping details with modifications only to image and resolution. There appear to be many cases this.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 63 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This is gonna be a VERY highly propagandized war. Old newsheads will remember during the 2022 and 2023 days of the Ukraine War (when they had even a vague chance of victory) how we talked about the "real war" vs the "propaganda war". This is gonna be that situation on steroids.

Israel HAS to sell an image of impending victory to their settlers and their backers in the imperial core, because if these settlers are getting confined to bunkers and losing sleep and the power keeps going out and there's not enough fuel and not even able to escape the country AND the war isn't visibly going well for Israel at all? The Zionist project will only unravel quicker.

propaganda will try to appear as objective and realist as possible so as to worm its way past your instant dismissal of it as jingostic genocidal nonsense and will instead present itself as "well, this is simply the facts of the situation, Israel reported a successful strike on [location] with [weapon], here's the video/image." a day or two after this conflict between Iran and Israel began, I started treating no new information as necessarily true (good or bad) unless it's been a little while for the information to come under scrutiny and survive it; that might be a declaration by Iran that they're striking something important and then the declaration turns out to have been invented, or some announcement that Israel has destroyed something in Iran and it turns out they didn't, or only lightly damaged it.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 70 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

NYT - emphasis mine

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu drew blowback in Israel after he lamented the “personal cost” of the war in a television interview at the site of an Iranian missile strike. “Each of us bears a personal cost, and my family has not been exempt,” Netanyahu said. “This is the second time that my son Avner, due to missile threats and rocket fire, has cancelled a wedding.”

The reaction from some Israelis was swift. Gilad Kariv, a member of the Knesset, wrote on X of families “who will now never celebrate the weddings that were once meant to take place.” Yehuda Cohen, the father of an Israeli being held hostage in Gaza, said that not only can his son not get married but “he can’t breathe, he can’t see daylight and has been in danger of death for more than 20 months.”

Avner Netanyahu’s wedding was scheduled to take place in November 2024 but was canceled for security reasons. It had been rescheduled for June 16 but was delayed again after Israel began bombing Iran.

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 8 points 13 hours ago

This poor boy had to postpone his party, TWICE! Remember the cost next time you think of defending your nation!

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 56 points 21 hours ago

NYT - Israel’s military says Iran struck with a missile armed with cluster munitions.

~1,000 word update


Full textThe Israeli military said Iran launched a missile with a cluster munition warhead at a populated area in central Israel on Thursday, according to Lt. Col. Nadav Shoshani, a military spokesman — the first report of that type of weapon being used in the current war.

Iran’s mission to the United Nations declined to respond to the Israeli claim, which was linked to a ballistic missile that struck Or Yehuda, Israel, and nearby towns. No one was killed by the missile or its bomblets, and it was unclear if anyone was injured.

[Video]

A munition lands on a sidewalk in Or Yehuda, Israel on Thursday morning.CreditCredit...Or Yehuda Municipality Cluster munitions have warheads that burst and scatter numerous bomblets, and are known for causing indiscriminate harm to civilians. More than 100 countries have signed on to a 2008 agreement to prohibit them — but Israel and Iran have not adopted the ban, nor have major powers like the United States, Russia, China and India.

Videos and photographs verified by The New York Times show an unexploded bomblet on the patio of an apartment building in Or Yehuda after an Iranian missile barrage on Thursday.

The object, which resembles a narrow artillery shell or rocket warhead, is most likely a submunition similar to those that have armed some Iranian ballistic missiles since 2014, according to Fabian Hinz, a research fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, a London-based think tank.

“The chances of hitting something increase when you have a missile that might not be as pinpoint-accurate as you would like it to be,” Mr. Hinz said in an interview. “Sometimes you might not need that much destructive force — imagine you want to hit an air-defense or a missile-defense system. These things are not armored, they are pretty soft targets, so just having a geographical spread of the attack could be worth it even if the explosive force and penetrative power is less.”

Trevor Ball, a former U.S. Army explosive ordnance disposal technician, seconded Mr. Hinz’s identification of the item as a submunition from a cluster weapon. Surveillance footage showing an object striking a sidewalk in Or Yehuda appears consistent with a submunition explosion, he said.

The Times also verified photographs and videos showing three small craters in the same area consistent with explosions of submunitions from cluster warheads. The craters are in a sidewalk, a backyard, and the parking lot of a hospital.

The Home Front Command, the Israeli military unit responsible for emergency response and civilian guidance, said in a statement that “a missile containing submunitions struck and dispersed over a relatively wide area,” and warned the public that some of the unexploded submunitions may still detonate and are therefore dangerous. It urged anyone who finds such an object to report it immediately to the authorities.

The command said it had found at least 10 sites in central Israel that may have been struck by submunitions from a cluster weapon.

The Times was not able to independently verify all of those sites, or verify that the submunitions came from a warhead that would be illegal under the 2008 international agreement, the Convention on Cluster Munitions. It prohibits warheads containing ten or more submunitions that each weigh less than four kilograms.

Israel has used cluster munitions in past wars, most recently in 2006 in Lebanon. Russia and Ukraine have used them in the war underway between them since 2022.

Experts say there is very limited publicly available information about the different warheads used on Iran’s expansive arsenal of ballistic missiles. If Iran used missiles carrying cluster warheads, it suggests that it is digging deep into its arsenal and not holding back from using a controversial weapon.

Israel and Iran have been exchanging fire since Israeli forces began an aerial attack on Iran last Friday, targeting its nuclear infrastructure and top military commanders.

Since then, Iran has launched more than 400 missiles at Israel. Most have been shot down by Israeli air defense systems but some have hit military facilities, residential buildings and, on Thursday, a hospital. Those attacks have killed at least 24 people, according to the Israeli authorities.

Israeli warplanes have conducted strikes in both rural and urban areas. As of Thursday, 224 people in Iran have been killed, according to the Iranian health ministry. Israeli strikes have killed at least 10 senior Iranian military leaders.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu answered “yes” when he was asked in a televised interview with Kan, the Israeli public broadcaster, if Iranian missile with a “fragmenting warhead” had hit Israel.

“There are smaller bombs that if you touch them they explode,” he said. He did not explicitly refer to the missile on Thursday as a cluster munition.

Mr. Hinz, who has studied Iranian ballistic missiles extensively, said that the submunition seen in the images from Israel can be carried by at least two Iranian missiles — the Qiam, which is an Iranian-made version of a Soviet SCUD missile, and the much larger Khorramshahr, which can carry up to 80 submunitions.

Cluster munitions, first used by the German Luftwaffe during the Spanish Civil War, have long been controversial.

“Cluster munitions cannot distinguish between soldiers and civilians because they spread their submunitions over a wide area and leave behind unexploded submunitions that endanger civilians, like land mines, for months or years to come,” said Bonnie Docherty, a senior arms adviser at Human Rights Watch.

Since the adoption of the 2008 convention, 99 percent of global stockpiles have been destroyed, according to the Cluster Munition Coalition.

The Israeli military circulated a digital flyer with a photo of what looks to be an unexploded projectile and a warning that “it may explode upon touch or movement.”

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 81 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

10 days ago , Greta was Arrested from Gaza Freedom Flottila

lenin-laugh

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›