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[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 57 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

only forbes could write an article titled "Why New Yorkers Voted For Public Grocery Stores, Explained" where the only quoted new yorker is a billionaire grocer with a link to fox news

ffs, please leave your apartment for two seconds and talk to people, literally anyone. a couple of "I'M TIRED OF PAYING OUT THE ASS FOR BREAKFAST" would go a long way but i guess i dunno what i expected from forbes

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

True but this article is in full support of the measure even drawing logical comparisons to existing government run grocery stores. Its pretty good all things considered.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago

Yeah a good journalist isn’t going to draw conclusions for you. Worth pointing that the author mentions how popular the idea is among the people, and the only opposition he cites is from a billionaire grocery chain owner as he specifically mentions in the article. Most readers will spot that not only does this person have an interest in this program not succeeding, but has probably never been in a situation where he has to worry about his next meal.

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago

Schweizer is about as left as it gets for high level analysis of the grocery industry unfortunately. He's supportive of the measure to be clear. Idk if he lives in NYC though.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 51 points 6 days ago (4 children)
[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How kind of them offering up their locations for the City to use like that.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

With those bougie names, I’m sure their locations are all on wealthier areas of the city, not the best locations for these shops. But one or two in such places might show people that grocery costs are mostly a factor of greed, and get them to support public owned goods, if we’re lucky.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

I'm no NYC expert but since the more expensive areas are probably near the city center maybe they'll be in a good location for people to pick stuff up in on their way home from work? Since most people probably commute. But then the richys would just get mad theres poors shopping in their neighborhoods lmao

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 6 days ago

Maybe we should save him the trouble and eminent domain him...

[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago

Funny that they admit they can't outcompete the 'bureaucratic, slow, inefficient' socialist industry they hate.

[–] blame@hexbear.net 42 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Grocers and media psychopaths aside I don't really understand why people would think this is such a non-viable idea. It's literally just a store that doesn't need profit. If it makes them feel better maybe there can be a guy who stands at the front that they hand $100 bills to. He can wear a top hat and monocle and pretend he's the owner.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 6 days ago

I think most people actually don't think its a bad idea at all. Which is shown by him winning the election. It's just that most people don't have a voice in the media.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

The most common thing i hear from the average brainwashed person is "government cant run things" because they think the government is incompetent. This gets reinforced everytime politicians defund programs and they inevitably get worse

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

While we are under capitalism, I want that job.

...wait no, NO! I am not a capitalist! I just work here!

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

ooh! ooh! waves hand in air

[–] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What's funny is there are many examples of this working in walking distance from New York state, for example Quebec has the SAQ and SQDC which are small specific grocery stores that are state owned and sell marijuana and alcohol related products.

Btw the weed there cannot be beat. State approved highs are the best kind

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hmm maybe if food supply can be run by state for the benefit of the people, maybe all necessities could be as well?

[–] D61@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

There's a thing that I've come to realize as I've gotten older and older.

More often than not, we never learn the actual deffinition of words or phrases or ideas. We'll hear something in context and understand enough to get through the moment without being confused. But we don't learn enough from the context to know for sure what the thing is.

So we see people getting really hung up over words.

"Profit" is one of these words. It would not surprise me if most people interpret the word to mean nothing more than "making money", as in "revenue". Instead of the more accurate/useful "making more money than was spent in a particular time frame" or "money removed from the entity for non-business use".