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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What will happen to the games library? If only the ROG Xbox Ally can play Xbox Series X|S games…

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I think the Xbox Ally is able to play the Series' games. It has a GPU that's comparable to the Series S.

However, we're gonna lose the old Xbox games (OG & One) compatibility unless Microsoft bundles an Xbox emulator into Windows.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I feel her pain. Seamus Blackly and Jay Allard probably feel the same.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 31 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Well yeah because they screwed up one of their main franchises. All they had to do was leave Budgie alone to make Halo games, but no.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Bungie didnt want to make halo games anymore though

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Well too fucking bad, cause Halo is the only thing they're good at. They should have sucked it up and kept iterating on Halo 3. That game was peak Xbox.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

They should have given us another Lost Odyssey.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, they should have sucked it up and made a passionless game, a shell of the former titles. Oh, wait.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago

Hey MDK deserves another one.

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

They can just be another Sega.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 113 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Part of the problem might be that I literally have no idea what their current console is called? Whoever was in charge of naming the last threeish xbox consoles should be fired out of a cannon

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 56 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They had all that free marketting from people assuming the third one would be the 720 and they ditched it in favor of calling it the Xbox One, which everyone was already using for the name of the first Xbox. Still baffled by that one.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 58 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

I can't think of a single company worse at naming products and services than Microsoft. They have an abysmal track record. Some examples off the top of my head, all of which make web searches near-impossible:

  • They renamed Office 365 to just "365" (and then "365 Copilot"). The mind boggles.
  • They named their light extensible code editor "Visual Studio Code", despite the fact that they had a long-established IDE (for code) called "Visual Studio".
  • They called their application framework "the .NET framework".
  • They called the replacement framework ".NET Core", and after a few major versions, changed to calling it ".NET", but it's totally distinct from the .NET framework.
  • They called their ninth major desktop operating system "Windows 7", then followed up with "Windows 8" and... "Windows 10".
  • Their native web app replacement for Outlook is called "New Outlook".
  • They recently renamed their Remote Desktop app "Windows App". I have no words.
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

You forgot about Teams (New)

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

One would almost think they are having a laugh, but no it's for real (I don't think are intentionally trying to come up with such comically stupid naming policies).

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, sometimes I wonder if they do these bad names for the free publicity of people complaining about them. But then there's plenty examples where the name isn't just clunky, but rather actively confusing for potential users...

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft suck at naming things in general. It's a problem across every single branch of the business, people keep calling Office 365 0365 because Microsoft insists on calling it O365 and people think that's a zero. Also the name makes no sense anyway, why not call it Microsoft Office Online?

Then we have Microsoft Azure, except they renamed that to Entra despite the fact that both names are stupid. Then of course there is the entirety of the Windows OS lineup.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Entra isn't Azure. Entra ID is what they renamed Azure Active Directory to. But not always; there's also Azure Active Directory B2C (yes, that's the fully expanded name). And various other Azure-branded things that may or may not belong together.

Microsoft are spectacularly bad at naming things.

It's a miracle they haven't renamed Windows 11 to "360 365" or "Live 6.5" or "Active-DOS Series X" or something.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

The current one is the Xbox Seriez Z4 pro classic

Cmon keep up

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, totally agree on this. If you put the last two names in front of me and asked which was newer, I’d have no idea. The new one has multiple versions too so it makes it more confusing.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, after the 360 they had XXXbox sitting right there and they acted like they were too good for it. Prudes.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (12 children)

Well, everyone say hello to the $1000+ PlayStation 6.

What're you going to do, buy an Xbox? Build a PC with a GPU alone that costs almost the same?

No Xbox means Sony gains a monopoly on the console market. Unless Nintendo decides to actually compete with regular hardware again, which they won't.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 8 hours ago

But consider... Steam Deck.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

We passed the point of diminishing returns for graphics years ago. There's no point in keeping up with the latest hardware anymore.

[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

Steamdeck probably tbh if they don't migrate to playstation

Budget and fits the exact needs of xbox users

[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 23 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Nah, I'll just keep gaming on a cheap Linux PC and fuck ever buying a console again. Honestly at this point a 5 year old GPU gives you access to 99% of all games ever made, why spend so much to play 4 shitty 'AAAA' games a year?

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 129 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

Wait I thought stock buybacks and hollowing out all our dedicated talent didn't have consequences?

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 121 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Was funny when they said they needed more original games like Hi Fi rush after firing the people that made Hi Fi rush.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 17 hours ago

Everyone knows developers only have one good game in them.

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[–] 332@feddit.nu 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Have you considered firing half the workforce and pushing AI harder? I think that might fix it.

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[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 24 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

The problem at this point is not so much that they don't have games - they have released plenty in the past few years and most have been received positively.

The problem is that they released those games too late, and by that point, the ship had already sailed. After a streak of disappointing years with the XOne, they needed strong titles to pair up with XSeries. Instead, they released jack shit for an entire year, and after that the disappointment just grew further with the likes of Halo Infinite, Starfield and the weird vampire game nobody asked for.

By that point, everyone already got themselves a PS5, a Switch, a gaming PC or a handheld device. Xbox needed to show their fans they believed in their mission and were capable of delivering strong titles on their platform, but everyone saw their releases and said "Meh".

The strong titles eventually came, but by that point they had already decided to port them over to the competition to offset the cost, and everyone saw the writing was on the wall for the platform.

Spencer can go on stage spewing whatever bullshit he wants, but nobody outside of the most diehard Xbox fans believe that the platform has a future - and it's very hard to convince people to invest on your platform when it's not certain how many more years it will be supported, and whether your store will remain accessible or shut down a few years down the line.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 3 points 11 hours ago

It doesn't help that the One S is an underpowered cheapo console, but that MS demands that all Xbox games must run on the One S with a pretty high FPS. You had major developers delaying or cancelling their Xbox release because they couldn't get it to work on the One S.

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[–] simple@piefed.social 59 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

"And here's the thing — maybe it will work," she added. "Xbox has a deep portfolio. [Oblivion Remastered] was obviously a huge success, and they can continue to outsource that work to external companies and make a lot of money releasing their older games — older games from an era when Xbox knew how to build them."

Shots fired. Despite Microsoft constantly claiming Xbox is here to stay and they're working on the next console, it's very clear they're trying to transition off hardware back into Windows so they don't lose that too since Linux is dominating the handheld market. Even if they do make a new console, theyll put as much effort into it as the Xbox One.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft is trying to make Xbox into Windows: Where 3rd parties make the hardware and then license the platform from Microsoft. It's a vastly more profitable model. Especially if they get all those end users signed up for a subscription service.

The problem is that the world thinks of "Xbox" as a console (and a specific kind of controller). To pull this off Microsoft is going to have to re-brand Xbox entirely by making people think of it more like a game-specific app store that runs on Windows and special handheld hardware. It won't be easy.

There's a bigger problem with this plan though: No real coordination with the Windows OS team. Windows on handhelds sucks. The past twenty fucking years of Windows development has been almost entirely focused on improving enterprise features with very little attention paid to end users or gaming.

Growth in Windows gaming has come despite Microsoft's investments. Not because of them. In fact, I'd argue that if it weren't for Steam, Windows—as a gaming platform—would be a fraction of what it is today.

Don't get me wrong, though! I love this new Xbox roadmap! Windows gaming has been holding back Linux desktop adoption for far too long. The latest benchmarks that show games on SteamOS vastly outperforming the new Xbox-branded handhelds pretty clearly demonstrates all that bashing of Windows by Linux nerds was deeply accurate.

It turns out that Linux on the desktop really is superior! 🤣

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

So basically they're trying to do what Trip Hawkins did with the 3DO in 1993. In order for that to work, you're going to have to convince people to pay PC hardware prices first. Two issues:

  1. Third party manufacturers aren't going to sell at a loss,

  2. Sony will continue to sell their consoles at a loss, which means everyone will just buy their consoles instead.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 17 points 20 hours ago

F tier click bait. Literally nothing informative was said in here.

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