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spoilerPollster Mark Penn, a longtime adviser to the Clintons, on Wednesday described Zohran Mamdani’s victory in the New York City Democratic mayoral primary as a “911 moment” for the party.

In an interview on Fox News’s “America’s Newsroom,” the chairman of The Harris Poll said those who don’t want to see Mamdani win in November should target him both for his refusal to condemn calls to “globalize the intifada” and for his far-left economic policies.

“Look, this is a 911 moment for the Democratic Party, in the sense that he’s an antisemitic socialist,” Penn said, when asked which angle would be more effective to use against him.

“I think you have to throw both of those things at him because he has really not disavowed the global intifada. He has not really disavowed his comments that we should seize the means of production,” Penn continued.

“He is perhaps the most extreme major candidate ever to win such a major office,” he added.

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

“He is perhaps the most extreme major candidate ever to win such a major office,” he added.

I want every lib who cries about the purity testing on the left to read this. The most extreme candidate isn't the dem under who millions of Iraqi starved or trump who calls for the ethnic cleansing of gaza.... Its a socdem. Why would any leftist want people with this train of thought to dictate the direction of anything? Just a few months ago mandem said trump was the greatest threat to democracy now these politicians of yours act like Zohran wants to tear down the country. I thought it was vote blue no matter who right? Here's your representatives telling you genocide isn't a red line but being a socdem with some integrity is.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He is perhaps the most extreme major candidate ever to win such a major office,” he added.

TIL literal baby-eating slaveowners and klansmen aren’t extreme.

[–] aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

literal baby-eating slaveowners

what-the-hell

[–] fox@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

The media will always, always interrogate every possible negative angle of any even moderately left candidate and will never bother to even question the ideology of holden-bloodfeast

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Dinkins win wasn’t even that long ago. It’s remarkable how short their attention spans are and lack of history.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Penn claimed the “primary system has been hijacked” in the 2025 mayoral race

Crying that an election was "hijacked" because they lost lmao. Indistinguishable from Trump chuds in 2020.

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 51 points 1 week ago

"primary system has been hijacked" is even more rich when talking about the Democrats who haven't had a legitimate presidential primary in like eighteen years

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

Me, the owner of the casino, claiming that the games I rigged in my favor have been hijacked because I may have to give a big pay out to a gambler.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Since he's calling this Dems' "9/11" we should assume this is just an islamophobic reference to it.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this is a 911 moment for the Democratic Party

sicko-wistful

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're the CEO of a polling institution. Run a poll asking "Do you support 'doing 9/11' to the Democratic Party?" you coward.

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would actually love to know how chuds respond to a forced choice question like "Who do you support more, 9/11 or the Democratic Party?"

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Both leftists and chuds answering "9/11" might be the final boss of horseshoe theory.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Is everyone in this comment section doing a bit, or did that event make our brains incapable of ever again that sequence of digits as "nine one one" (the phone number)?

I'm genuinely curious, because, I admit, I immediately see "nine eleven" until I read more closely, so I assume others must be making the same error.

Edit: I guess this question should have been directed to @PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net and @spectre@hexbear.net

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Until you pointed it out I had kinda forgotten about 911 as the emergency number

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Curious, isn't it? I even hear people say "call nine eleven" aloud when speaking about the emergency number. The original pronunciation has been erased.

If I had schizophrenia I would definitely be weaving something about that being the real goal of 9/11 from the start. pepe-silvia

I remember people wondering on that day whether the "terrorists" chose the date on purpose.

[–] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Don't think that's self-referential enough for schizophrenia, which is actually pretty different from your usual conspiracy-brained nonsense.

(I don't know why I'm commenting on this.)

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my case it's not clicking past the headline, mea culpa

I've just been peeved by comments from Gillibrand and the Republicans earlier this week so I jumped the gun.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The sentence also makes complete sense by both interpretations, because nine-eleven was an emergency.

All nine-elevens are nine-one-ones, but not all nine-one-ones are nine-elevens.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, from your comment I had thought there was some audio making me look like a fool (still didn't click past the headline to check obv)

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I didn't see any audio or video in the article. He could very well have said "9/11" and the authors left out the forward slash by mistake or thinking it unnecessary.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Porsche's legendary car model, the Nine Eleven.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Popular 1990s TV show, rescue nine eleven

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, that is how most people say Porsche 911

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is is really that common? I’ve definitely heard both “nine eleven” and “nine one one”, but I thought the latter was still the more commonly accepted way of saying it.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's my impression and I know a lot of car guys. I suppose it depends on the language of course, but in english, norwegian, swedish definitely "nine eleven"

[–] prole@hexbear.net 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'ma be honest I live for Dems pearl clutching over this shit, it's hilarious to me. A barely socialist Muslim wins a primary and libs are literally comparing it to 9/11 on Fox News.

We won't apologize for the terror, but it hasn't even started yet and they're already pissing and shitting themselves. Genuinely, this kinda thing should be the signal to so many people that socialism is a legitimate threat to the status quo. I really hope Mamdani gets more radical and doesn't capitulate, but history says he'll be a sheepdog if he even wins

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

NYC joins belt and road

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

BBB is gonna do astronmical wealth transfer to the rich but this is the... Oh wait they like that

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

:vote: :vote: :vote: BLUE NO MATTER WHO

UNLESS

He's muslim and has convictions otherwise pedal to the metal racism.

[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes - Mamdani has integrity, principles and a genuine desire and intention to work for the benefit of ordinary people, so stands in direct opposition to the values of the current Democratic party.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These absolute morons think copying the Jeremy Corbyn playbook is going to work without realizing that this time the dude won BECAUSE voyers wanted an ‘antisemite’

Congrats you fuck, you’ve played yourself into painting the majority of dem voters as antisemitic and blatantly pushed racism.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Saying a Muslim man winning an election in New York is like 9/11 hitler-detector

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Trump had his own personal Vietnam. Chuck Schumer can have his own personal 9/11.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"9-11 moment"

Yeah at this point any opposition to Zohran is islamophobia, time to call it what it is

(Obviously referring to liberals/mainstream, not among comrades)

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

White people simply can’t help it.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

Sad to see them already giving up on this. I have utmost faith that the Democrats will still be able to execute their primary purpose: to keep leftists out of office.

They successfully ratfucked the party's nominee in the 2021 Buffalo mayoral election. Why are they already so down on their chances of doing it here?

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

god damn Mamdani's primary victory has brought out all of the unaddressed post-9/11 racism huh. I can't wait to see the meltdowns when he fucking wins the general and I hope my nonwhite comrades don't get hurt by racists popping off.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“He’s an antisemite”.

For the intellectually impaired. Dont you dumb normies know that “left-wing” and “antisemite” are contradictions?

Also, all of you are card-carrying nazis. You call yourselves antisemites you fucking dipshits.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Something something never believe the antisemites are unaware of the absurdity of their claims something Satyr Jeans Poll or something idk

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

I want a classless society where we’re all equal and the Jews aren’t invited.

[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I dont really understand the point of these op ed's, nobody knows or cares who these people with bland Caucasian names are. Isnt the Hill supposed to be like a newspaper for centrist Democrats? This guy is a Trump supporter, what are are they even doing.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Global infantiliada on the blue side.

[–] loomy@lemy.lol 1 points 1 week ago

I don't get it.