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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

nice, we saved cow, chicken, and pigs from extinction.

[–] toppy@lemy.lol 5 points 6 days ago

This is very depressing. I feel science and technology has improved a lot and now people should consume lab grown meat and lab grown milk. Humans should try to reduce their imprint in the world. Human growth has become unsustainable. We produce so much food but still there is hunger. So many kids around the world are dying of hunger. Something has to change. Otherwise I feel the system will collapse.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

we kill 3T animals a year for food/medicine/clothing/etc. Maybe we should stop?

edit: sorry, that was quite extreme of me to suggest we don't kill 3T animals a year.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm going to go brutally murder and deep-fry my dog just to cancel out whatever grass you ate today, you extremist vegoon! something something lions something desert island grumble grumble muh canines

Hope that serves as a warning the next time you feel like ~~expressing an opinion that differs from mine~~ being preachy.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Look I get you but

points at fangs

Canines though

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

^ Vampire! Run for your lives!!!

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

not sure what the edit is for... you looking to be disagreed with? are there comments I can't see?

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[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Source?

Im gonna go out on a limb and say this is udder cowshit. Rats are mammals, as are raccoons, squirrels, and whole fucking masses of little basically unfarmable varmints. You're telling me that there's like 12 farm cows for every wild rat on earth?

Horse. Shit.

[–] needanke@feddit.org 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

The source apperently takes the percentages by biomass, not by count as it seems. So small varmints will not have as much of an impact as a human or cow would.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago

in the comments section. straight up 'sourcing it'. and by 'it', haha, well. let's justr say. My pnas.

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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Quick Internet search.... https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

They are referring to biomass.

  • 1 cow ~ 1200 lbs / 545 kg

  • 1 rat ~ 0.5 lbs / 0.25 kg

1 cow ~ 2400 rats by biomass

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Well thats not what the infographic says. It specifies "mammals", not "mammals by weight".

OK so how many tons of cow are accounted for by whales?

Or does the survey cherry pick land animals too?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not saying at all this isn't a problem, but I hate bullshit statements that are deliberately deceiving.

These numbers are all by mass. Not actual number. Cows are huge. So are chickens, for birds. How this comic is laid out infers that there's 60 cows for every 40 of every other mammal, and that isn't even remotely close to true.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think biomass is probably more important than sheer number for these comparisons. Although I would also accept 'proportion of world's arable land being used to sustain them' as I suspect the ratios come out pretty similar for obvious reasons.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The problem is that the infographic says "of all the mammals on Earth", which means individuals, not biomass. So the infographic is objectively false.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Misleading you to what conclusion that you wouldn't otherwise have reached?

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

Livestock have to live through horrible agony, like the worst kind of torture. This means (by biomass, which some people correlate indirectly with moral worth), at least 60% of mammals on Earth undergo horrible torture. Bentham's Bulldog, "Factory Farming is Literally Torture."

Excess pigs were roasted to death. Specifically, these pigs were killed by having hot steam enter the barn, at around 150 degrees, leading to them choking, suffocating, and roasting to death. It’s hard to see how an industry that chokes and burns beings to death can be said to be anything other than nightmarish, especially given that pigs are smarter than dogs.

Ozy Brennan: the subjective experience of animal's suffering 10/10 intense agony is likely the same as the subjective experience of a human suffering such agony. (~6 paragraph article, well worth a read.)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (18 children)

It says 60% of mammals are livestock, not 60% live in factory farms. I've been around cows in normal (non-factory) farms, and they seem fine. Way better off than wild animals that starve, die of disease, freeze to death, etc.

I have family members that have livestock and if something bad happens to them it's like someone hurt their child.

A seal in the 4% living in the wild may be eaten alive by a killer whale or torn to shreds by a great white shark.

We aren't going to prevent all animals from suffering, because how could we do that? Kill off all of the predators? Then there would be animal overpopulation and animals dying of starvation and disease.

Maybe we just focus on ending factory farms because that seems doable. But that effort won't be successful with obvious hyperbole claiming all livestock is treated like animals in the most horrible factory farms. Some people have actually been to farms that aren't like that you know.

People aren't stupid and if you misrepresent the facts, no one will believe anything else you're saying no matter how emotional you are when misrepresenting the facts.

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[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't think this is loss. I'm ready to eat crow if I'm proven wrong, but I think the real joke is the amount of time people will spend staring at this image and trying to figure out how it's loss

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[–] Pierre121000@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 week ago

I don't want to sound all Malthusian but that's kind of fucked??

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

more elephants than I expected tbh

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[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You forgot the citation bro.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Title made me think they were doing some 4 levels deep "loss" meme. It almost has it but frame 3 isn't close.

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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago
[–] graycube@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Are pets livestock, or did they miss a category of mammals? In the US there are more dogs than children.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

End of the Holocene, Last of the Megafauna party.

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[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

I just cannot imagine a functioning planet like that tbh, there's no way cattle industries are something we can keep in the world without killing ourselves slowly.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are these percentages referring to total biomass or population count?

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Has to be biomass, rats alone are etimated to be about as numerous as humans.

Searched for the 96% number and found this study that the graphic is likely based on: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1711842115

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago

birbs are only 2/3rds unreal confirmed ✅

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