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[CW: Transphobic slur] Guy discovers he's pansexual, blames porn for giving him a "fetish" (hexbear.net)

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The paper that this is from is the product of a group headed by a self-described "pro-life feminist" and that has retweeted TERFs.

It always sucks when groups with legitimate criticisms of pornography (or anything) dip into bigoted, reactionary bullshit because it poisons whatever valid points they may have made.

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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

penis and ejaculation fetish

How deviant. Only decades of exposure to violent pornography could explain this.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

This poor man is being exposed to the twisted modern sexual fetishes of thousands of years ago

CW decadent smut

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

"exposure to violent pornography"

doesn't describe any violent pornography

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I used to joink my doink right-handed, like Baby Jesus Intelligently Designed me to do. now that I have watched violent pornography for a decade, I learned to doink-joink with my left hand and really enjoy busting, this inviting the devil into my home.

I wish I had never discovered the sears lingerie catalogue.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

Sinister.

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

If you bust with your left you bust with the devil

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

penis and ejaculation fetish

Uhhh... is there a thing that's plainer than vanilla?

Like cardboard, maybe?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm a bit of a bar fly myself.

Yeah? What do you usually drink?

Water

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

It's not a fetish! It came free with the biology! Even if you're queer, that's like the first node in the roguelike

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

'OH No! Big throbbing cock is hot! This is a disaster! Who has done this to me!' cardboard-monsters

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Seeing the ol' monster dong pounding away is one of the like points of porn my dude.

[–] ComradeSpahija@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

That kind of reminds me of the paper where there's testimony from a man who feels wrong about the heart transplant that saved his life because he got a black man's heart. It is the purest combination of racism and ignorance I've ever seen.

Edit: Found the screenshots

The second quote is full to the brim with tagline material

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

long lost south park plotline

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

what-the-hell

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

catgirl-huh

[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I fucking hate white people

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago

Early exposure to violent phonography desensitizes users, leading them to seeking out more violent, deviant and extreme genres.

Okay yeah that tracks.

One consumer described the impact:

(braces self for fucked up shit)

trans and gay porn

[–] axont@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not gay I just have a fetish for dudes fucking me in the ass

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

live-tucker-reaction

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

groups with legitimate criticisms of pornography (or anything) dip into bigoted, reactionary bullshit

So what, all of them?
Seriously, the vast majority of these anti-pornography groups are evangelicals. The leader of this group is Melinda Reist, an Australian Baptist known for being an anti-abortion TERF. She also started Women's Forum Australia, an explicitly TERF organization that also promoted the dangers of WiFi signals. But people on this site will still happily parrot their talking points!

[+] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

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[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It's rather simple: there is absolutely nothing in Marxist-Leninist or Maoist or whatever statist communist theory that actually requires them to be socially libertine in any way. You can implement Marxist-Leninist theory, for example, perfectly well while still being deeply socially conservative on issues that do not have to do with the general labour rights of the population - Feminism to some degree is required because that has to deal with rights to labour, and AES states need women to work for much the same reason Capitalist states need women to work, to increase productivity, and doing that generally requires confronting (to some degree) the sexism and misogyny of their population.

That does not require in any sense queer rights, sexual liberation, generally the right to live one's life in the way one wants so long as it is not harming others, etc - indeed, given the increased focus on the 'collective' and on the 'community' there is if anything even more incentive for these states to promote and push the social norms that already exist in the population, which have almost invariably been quite socially conservative and scornful of behavior that is seen as disgusting or outside-the-norm, as tends to be the case in most human cultures in general. Simple as that, in my opinion.

[+] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

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[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not necessarily, but there are probably about as many difficulties in state socialist governments like that as there are in capitalist ones, yes, the situation is really not that much better. I am personally skeptical of this because I'm horribly burnt out on cishetero-nuerotypicals in general, but in theory under proper stateless communism queer/neurodiverse people should hopefully be able to find each other and make their own communities that are not subject to the rules and arbitrary cultural norms of the cishet-nuerotypical communities around them. For so long as there is a state that is enforcing cultural norms, however, there are still going to be massive problems with achieving the liberation of LGBT and nuerodiverse people, yes, I think that is true.

I do think to some degree individualism, for all it's many, many, many faults, is better on this one specific issue because of it's greater focus on the needs and desires of the discrete individuals instead of those of the 'community'. There is a reason, I think, that the enclaves of greatest queer/nuerodiverse safety are all in the west, and it's not some myth of progress idea that people just inherently become more socially libertine the richer they are - it is because the West is much more individualistic and atomized, so people are, in a lot of places, much less concerned with whatever the fuck other people are doing and generally less inclined to shunning, for both better and worse. Even these enclaves are obviously under massive threat right now, of course - as said, Capitalist states aren't really any better, the problems are just different.

I think this all just boils down to the fact that ultimately, there will be no liberation for Queer and Nuerodiverse people for so long as we live under the dominion of cishet and neurotypicals people. Whether that dominion uses red flags or not is irrelevant - we need to be able to have our own autonomous communities without the authority of cishetero-nuerotypicals hanging over our heads for acceptance of our abnormal behavior to be anything but tenuous and conditional on varying degrees of assimilation.

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[–] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

That poster has not read any theory

Here is Engels like 150 years ago

What we can now conjecture about the way in which sexual relations will be ordered after the impending overthrow of capitalist production is mainly of a negative character, limited for the most part to what will disappear. But what will there be new? That will be answered when a new generation has grown up: a generation of men who have never known what it is to buy a woman’s surrender with money or any other social instrument of power; a generation of women who have never known what it is to give themselves to a man from any other considerations than real love or to refuse to give themselves to their lover from fear of the economic consequences. When these people are in the world, they will care precious little what anybody today thinks they ought to do; they will make their own practice and…that will be the end of it

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That does not require in any sense queer rights, sexual liberation, generally the right to live one's life in the way one wants so long as it is not harming others, etc - indeed, given the increased focus on the 'collective' and on the 'community' there is if anything even more incentive for these states to promote and push the social norms that already exist in the population, which have almost invariably been quite socially conservative and scornful of behavior that is seen as disgusting or outside-the-norm, as tends to be the case in most human cultures in general. Simple as that, in my opinion.

I don't think it goes simply in one way where collectivism necessarily pushes the norms for countries to be culturally reactionary (besides, beyond the West, collectivism is practically a catch-all term for non-western cultures), it does become if left untouched and left to reactionary attitudes.

I'd say if Cuba, Vietnam and Laos, 3 out of 5 socialist nations still living, can change, I would say just as much a collective community can be destructively conservative, they can also be thankfully progressive.

You have to keep in mind, a lot of these AES that were admittedly socially conservative did not live long enough to be in those days to repent, like their Western counterparts, unlike these three here

I don't know why but I feel you have fallen for some 'liberal culture realism' where it seems like the only best way your cultural identity, if not intersectional identity will exist, would be capitalist-derived liberal society. The way you go about this...

Since these 5 years, as an account... it feels like you mostly complain, at this point, I might suggest you logging off, but then again I've heard other people share similar pessimistic attitude, regardless of topic, so maybe you vibe in here

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I think this all just boils down to the fact that ultimately, there will be no liberation for Queer and Nuerodiverse people for so long as we live under the dominion of cishet and neurotypicals people. Whether that dominion uses red flags or not is irrelevant - we need to be able to have our own autonomous communities without the authority of cishetero-nuerotypicals hanging over our heads for acceptance of our abnormal behavior to be anything but tenuous and conditional on varying degrees of assimilation.

Well, while I can't exactly relate to you in your own shoes, I'd say good luck to y'all and your struggle for queer and neurodiverse liberation halal

[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I do give Cuba props, they have done a great job of combating the reactionary social positions of their population over the last few decades, and their legal rights are very extensive. Vietnam and Laos are doing the bare minimum, and do not impress me in the slightest.

This is ultimately the problem I have - I do not want queer and nuerodiverse people to have to sit and beg cishet nuerotypicals to pretty please give us rights please and thank you, that is a horrible position to be in even if the rights are given and it is the one we will always be in unless we can somehow achieve actual autonomy.

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[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A Socialist society (in the Marxist conception) prioritizes societal harmony over personal freedom. Not to a total degree, but definitely more so than under Liberal Capitalism.

Participation in "vices" (pornography, gambling, drugs, sexual promiscuity, etc ) can be fine and fun in moderation. Hell, I partake in many of them, some of them to excess. But it's also true that any of them can become addictive; that they can disrupt work and family life, they can harm relationships. They can cause disharmony in society.

Within the West, we are drawn to these things as a rebellion against a society we oppose. But in a Socialist society, they can represent a rebellion against Socialist values.

It is a goal within a Socialist government to determine to what extent these things are beneficial to society, if at all. Dialectics should then be used to determine the best course of action to deal with each vice: removing the core disease for which that vice is a symptom; making life bearable without the vice; changing societal norms so that the vice no longer causes disharmony; or just penalizing it out of existence with strict laws.

[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This sort of socialism is somewhat repugnant to me, I will admit, as unpopular as an opinion as that likely is around here. I am only a Communist because I see it as the best path to maximizing individual freedom, something that so-called 'individualists' have repeatedly failed to actually prioritize - Capitalism just sells the aesthetic of 'individualism' while still keeping all but the richest of the rich in gold-painted chains.

Prioritizing 'societal harmony' over personal freedom is, in my experience, the sort of talk that leads to people like me being 'penalized out of existence', which is obviously not an outcome that is desirable to me. I am not interested in assimilation in any respect - I do not want to be beaten into shape by society, but allowed to be myself, regardless of how weird I am.

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm always reminded of the younger man in the documentary "Loyal Citizens of Pyeongyang in Seoul", who in his interview says that he left North Korea for China because he was a bit antisocial and just didn't fit in well with the DPRK's heavily conformist society. I have to sympathize with him because I'm the same sort of person, and I probably would have done the same thing in his shoes.

But his story to me does not read as a dystopia, but a tragedy - a better society is built that serves well the vast majority, but there are still those who - of not fault of their own - are unsuited for it. You can sympathize with the antisocial man while still recognizing the society is preferable on the whole; and you can recognize the society is preferable on the whole while still trying to improve it further.

[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I suppose I have higher expectations than simply something that works for the majority - in truth, I suspect that a society that is ideal for cishet nuerotypicals is literally incompatible with one that is ideal for queer nuerodivergent people. Being a queer nuerodivergent people myself, I naturally want to prioritize the well-being of my 'people', much as nuerotypical cishet people invariably prioritize the well-being of themselves as a group.

This is why I, in truth, think the only actual solution to this problem is separation and complete autonomy. Even then I am suspect of cishet nuerotypicals allowing such communities to exist - they will always have overwhelming economic power just by numbers alone, it would be very easy for them to acquire coercive control over such an enclave 'for our own good' even under, say, an anarchist system.

In truth, I don't really hope at all. It seems the fate of people like me to always be 'outside', regardless of the social organization of the majority - it's just a matter of exactly how bad it is.

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought this was going to be a serious article on how exposure to violence at a young age messes you up.

Like I got exposed to violent videos at a young age, and youtube kept recommending it to me. It became a weird addiction. Eventually, I stopped, but I got as a result intrusive thoughts that are quite gory and detailed. it still doesn't go away (even with meds), and i don't know how to deal with them, even after years of not watching any gory content.

But yeah jerking off to trans and gay porn, the horror :/ ~/s~

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh no I just found out I enjoy more than one thing. I must repress those feelings and loudly proclaim society is broken for making me look inward for the first time since high school.

Damn you woke marxists!

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lmao penis fetish

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

battling in my head between "policing what people call themselves is cop shit" and "YOU'RE GAY! THAT'S WHAT GAY IS!"

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Getting sucked off by a dude

This is fucking Globalism's fault

(Obviously there are legitimate criticisms of porn as you say but some mfs will do anything but admit to being bi/pan goddamn)

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Globalism = Gobblejism

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i used to think pornography was causing my kinks to spin out of control, back when the sex i had was non reciprocal oral sex and the rare (bad) hookup pre-transition

once I started having sex, and hoo boy - the first real sex i had was a three way - I learned that "i can crank one off to this" and "I am into this as a lived experience" are very different.

Reading this kind of thing just makes me think of the presumption that my pornographic interests were a near 1:1 map of my actual kinks

I think this guy is a bit silly lol. he looked at porn and basically made himself comfortable with his own urges and then freaked out and blamed the porn instead of his repression

[–] Des@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

somehow like 90% of my partners both hook ups and relationships (mono or poly) were into similar kinks to me i was either seeing it out or get insanely lucky

but i get that feeling that's how i felt pre human contact but it was earlier internet era so at first I thought I was mentally damaged or something

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always fail to understand what these people's fucking problem is. Maybe I just never had post ejaculation guilt but like, if something gets you off and you can access it whats the fuckin problem. Just shut up and bust

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

shut up and bust

Underrated song tbh

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Oh hey look, they're repackaging the "Gays targeting kids to turn them gay" thing again.

[–] naom3@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where are they even getting that quote from? I looked at the source they cited and it doesn’t seem to be in there. Did they just make it up? Was this written by chatgpt?

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I checked the source as well (can be viewed here), and it doesn't directly quote anyone, nor does it mention LGBT+ in any capacity.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Having sex with women used to be good. Now it feels bad. What is going on?" live-tucker-reaction

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[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not sure if this will fit here, but it reminds me that one of the newest Kanye leaks is about him giving his cousin head because of porn as a kid. Written by the worst rapper of all time, Dave Blunts, of course.

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[–] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

maybe he should log off and get an actual fucking hobby then.

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