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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 202 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He added, “We want the same prices Europe gets, we want the same prices other country gets.”

Europeans pay very little for healthcare because they use a system designed to provide affordable healthcare and not to enrich the wealthy...

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 95 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Here in the States, we call that system communism.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

"We want the benefits without the 'communism', please and thank you." -Capitalism-brained Americans

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a single entity that buys all the drugs and distributes it out where it's needed. It's called buying power and is very effective in negotiating a deal. They also allow generic drugs in most cases, so the patients and hospitals have options and are not held for ransom by big pharma.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"But if the "single entity" does not buy enough (because the government cut the budget), THEN PEOPLE DIE!" - something I vaguely remember from debates one time the US considered possibly offering something approaching centralized health care.

I don't know how the fuck it works. I assume the "single entity" just buys more and the government doesn't cut the budget?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A real country informa a pharmaceutical what they will pay per dose for certain drugs, and if no company will agree then they will open their own labs to produce the drugs at cost. Free marker capitalism is incompatible with human decency

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What a fucking joke of a country... It's absurdity beyond satire.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't want to live here anymore and I'm scared.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Add me to that list. oh wait don't. because lists and where that goes.

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Prepare for the worst and get armed and know how to use your weapon.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There was a very very small window that America wasn't a joke, and it ended like 80 years ago.

People need to understand shit didn't break 5 seconds before they noticed or well never fix it.

trump just doesn't have the manners and vocab to hide how bad it is.

If we don't start thinking on a longer timeline, we're fucked

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The system is designed to keep the working class too busy and tired to think beyond tonight’s dinner, or maybe tomorrow’s.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's our economic system not our healthcare...

And it's a real thing, resource scarcity as a child changes the timeline you think on. You know how everyone laughed at the people doing the "chase glitch" which was just check/wire fraud and incredibly easy to prosecute?

They seemed stupid because obviously there was going to be consequences, but resource scarcity means tomorrow's problems aren't real problems yet.

If you don't know if you'll be alive in aweek, consequences in a month literally don't factor into your thinking. That's why Pay Day loans and credit cards are such big business.

It is completely normal, it's how our brains are wired, and for 99.999999999% of human existence it was a solid strategy.

But the wealthy exploit it.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Let's not pretend like these predatory businesses and schemes are naturally occurring either. There was a deliberate and concerted effort to create the conditions of scarcity and demand for these shitty short term solutions.

it was a solid strategy

For 99% of human history if someone deliberately tried to create conditions of poverty for the majority of a population they would be deposed by that population. We have been turned into livestock.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

Reconstruction held promise, until it was basically squashed by racists.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

if we were smarter we'd be rioting.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Well they put a clown at the helm sooooooo......

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago

I guess I need to contact my pharmacy and find out where my check is for the drugs. According to Trump they owe me a lot of money.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Lol.

I grew up in the 90s. If someone had told me America was roughly 20 years out from letting a felon rapist pedophile roll over the U.S. while it just stood by and watched I simply would have dismissed it as absurd.

Such a comically pathetic nation.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

you forgot mentally unstable

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You grew up with clinton and Bush and didnt quite see a trend there?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

In their defense I don't think most people knew what trends to look for since such skills are attached to historical literacy the long suffering child of the humanities. History ain't boring the way it's taught in elementary, middle, and highschool is shit, rather than focusing on the push and pull of history, society, culture, and economics they focus on ye olde facts that have the same general depth as one of my ancestor trade ledgers. There's a tale in said facts but it takes a good bit of skill to weave it back together.

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 month ago (3 children)

MAGA supporters will believe him because they don’t understand percentages.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 month ago

3500% percent of them will believe him. The other 3% are rinos.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They also like rapists, as long as that rapist wears red.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump cannot and will not lower drug prices. That's just another lie... Oh, how about the Eppstein files? He could certainly publish those, but he won't for obvious reasons – almost as obvious as the reasons for not lowering drug prices.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well he certainly cannot lower them 1500%

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You mean you’re NOT getting a fat check every time you pick up your prescription?

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But he certainly can raise prices by 1500% once this pedo thing is over — probably a Freudian slip — he will probably do everything humanly possible to increase prices by that percentage since the lobby offered him and his cronies good terms.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Oh, this ISN’T the onion.

This guy needs to be in a home, this is not healthy behaviour.

Edit: are they trying to say a 33% drop?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

There is no reason to waste time trying to make sense of the word vomit.

[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

My guess is someone told him the markup on drugs in the USA is 1,500% so he reversed the logic without understanding how percentages work.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's true. I just went to get my son's inhaler, and the pharmacy paid me 14 times what I normally pay them for it. Thank you, Mr. President.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fucking what? Am I going to receive a check for hundreds of dollars next time I pick up my Adderall?

He's so fucking stupid it makes my head hurt.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You understand basic math and percentages. You're definitely not a Trump voter!

For them this is a huuuuuuge win 🫠

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Wait, doesn't this mean they have to pay us? If a drug used to cost $1000/year, the drug companies will now have to pay us $14,000/year to take it, right?

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You’re missing a zero. $14,000 in your pocket.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right. I'm not used to dealing with such large sums of cash.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Get used to it. Trump is gonna give us all a 15x rebate on medications! 🙄

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago

I thought this was an onion article. Then I realized it’s not…..

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So now they pay people absurd amounts to take drugs?

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 month ago

He's a pedo who failed math class, especially real life math class like this.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wtf does this even mean and how does he or any of his sycophants think this could possibly be implemented outside of a command economy?

Guess we’re getting a command economy, everyone. Hold on to your butts.

I’m sure they’ll blame the “socialists” and “communists” when it doesn’t work.

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, if you switch to a command economy, they'd be kind of right...

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[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

The full article on Forbes gives some terms more or less guaranteeing that companies will simply stop distributing in the US. Or raise global pricing to match US levels.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

So you go to the pharmacy and they give you a pile of adderal and, like $2000? Way better than socialism.

If y’all thought you had an illegal immigrant problem before, lemme tell ya…

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, MAGA followers can't do the math any better than trump himself. My thoughts .... two months from now drug prices went up, the difference flows to DJT and his inner circle while MAGA celebrate the new prices

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago
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