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[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I cannot believe 74% of Canadians or 76% of USians are happy. Absolutely not a chance. Everyone is depressed as shit.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 9 months ago

Doesn't really match my experience either to be honest. Pretty much everybody I know is generally unhappy about the state of things in Canada.

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago

I know very few people here that are genuinely happy.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if they polled saudi immigrant workers thonk

[–] bunbun@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 9 months ago

Or women. Or LGBTQ+ people.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Brazil at 83% is only possible if the poll was conducted on a football match day on a Friday.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago

I imagine a big limitation of this is that it's biased towards people who have internet access, and in countries like Brazil or India that excludes a large chunk of the population.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

India is at 84% which I find tremendously hard to believe

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago

84% of people who have internet access and cared to respond to the survey. Seems like internet access alone excludes half the population.

[–] GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Nice to see a flagmap which includes the Taiwan Province

[–] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago

There is no way Portugal is 79%. I would bet 50% on a good day.

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Wish they had surveyed the other AES countries too so I could use it to dunk on libs.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This does need to be further split I think. It looks like both "Very happy" and "rather happy" both count equally, when they are fairly different statements. I imagine most people in most cultures would generally say "Yeah, I'm ok" rather than admit they aren't doing super well. So I'm not sure how useful this data is like this.

I'd also question the translations of "very happy" etc. Depending on how they are translated it could have much more extreme connotations in some languages.

This isn't me assuming this is a "fake" or whatever, just that their methodology is a little lacking for my tastes.

And also this has some real "The international community (plus a view others)" vibes.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, completely agree with that. It's interesting as a pulse of how people surveyed respond to a fairly general question, but it misses a lot of nuance that would be important to draw any deep conclusions from this. Also worth noting that there is an inherent sample bias in who chooses or even has the opportunity to respond.

[–] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How is the work culture in China nowadays? I've heard about the 996 before, did it change since then?

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

AFAIK 996 is the attention-grabbing exception rather than the rule in China, so I doubt it reflects upon this poll very much.

[–] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago

Ok I see. That's what I expected because I know I wouldn't be happy with that kind of work life balance. 😅

Hopefully the government can crack down on the companies practicing it still.

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

When I ask, the answer I hear is “No it’s not like that, I work a completely normal 100% of my time, it’s cool”.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I remember seeing a funny post of liberals coping with "communist nations are happier" by saying "well they're happier because of all the propaganda" which even if it was true (it's not) wouldn't that still be a good thing?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's such a ridiculous premise too, like people are being tricked into being happy. If propaganda worked that way then everybody in the west would be positively ecstatic given that US has the biggest and most sophisticated propaganda machine in history.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Part of it is intent, like they do have the biggest propaganda machine in history, but it's tuned towards making people angry and miserable. The closest thing you have to 'happiness' propaganda are those ads that suggest therapy where if you go for them your boss will fire you.

[–] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 6 points 9 months ago

Money doesn't buy happiness. In unrelated news...

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago

lol I really did post a picture of ants didn't I 😅

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago

I did not expect Mexico to be that high.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is absolutely no way Argentina has 74% happiness with the insane economic collapse, inflation, inability to get basic food products and goods, and other necessities.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Self-reported studies are not very useful in collecting usable data, they are typically utilized to confirm biases.

This kind of online polling has no way to control variables that can invalidate the premise. Were these questions translated, or are we asking 22k that could afford a secondary education if they are happy? What is the demographic of people who have access to the Internet in the country? Did we just ask 22k people attached to the royal family of Saudi Arabia if they were happy?

This "study" raises more questions than it attempts to answer.