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[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 81 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget the government bailout when their gamble fails.

[–] kpw@kbin.social 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Only applies if you won enough already.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Get enough of the country on your payroll and you can just claim it's bad for the economy if you go under.

Taps head

[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Modern problems man.

[–] darq@kbin.social 62 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Except if you have enough money, it's not even gambling anymore. The only way you'd lose is if everybody loses.

And that's completely ignoring the fact that enough money lets you influence the rules of the game to tilt the odds in your favour.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Once you have enough money you can make even more by betting against others' success.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

And if you're only slightly rich (as in, daddy's a lawyer) you can afford to gamble, lose, and then try again.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're rich you can afford to gamble, lose and try again.

If you're poor, you can gamble, win, and then have to spend your winnings helping out your family and community. Like, paying for the operation your uncle needs but couldn't afford, or helping mom's friend from church avoid losing her home.

This is a reason that a lot of poor-person owned businesses don't grow. They may start strong, but then the business owner has trouble continuing to invest.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

very well put.

[–] ChaRRdude33@lemm.ee 36 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Are you telling me my gambling addiction will finally pay off??!

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most gamblers quit right before they become rich

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I'm not sure why that's germane, but I'm happy it's here.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not unless you do it outside a golden palace that abstracts your money into vouchers and chips.

But generally wealthy people make more gambles in business, partnership, accountability, other people's lives and social welfare, and the general stability of the world.

Like say becoming an arms dealer then paying the cost of a F-150 economy package to a couple senators and having them spend their endless war chests with no audits or oversight on some missiles to kill some goat farmers or something.

Or creating a pesticide with the upside of remaining active in soil for 4 or 5 centuries (and recycling in the human liver for up to a year after exposure) and having it produced in an impoverished southern town and then exported to French Polynesia so they can continue to grow cloned banana trees.

Or like taking doctors on nice yacht lunches and golf trips and telling them yes you really have developed a non addictive opioid.

Are you gambling with your money or other people's?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Was any of your ancestors a particularly successful mass murderer in the middle ages?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I mean, depending on your definition of mass murderer, you can safely say yes.

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The serious answer is that you need to play positive sum games.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I disagree. The serious answer is you have to be the one person that gets lucky.

Take 1024 people each with $1000. They all play roulette and go all in every round, half on black half on red. After 10 rounds, 1023 people have lost all their money, and one has won a million dollars.

The person who "made it" didn't do anything different, or play a +EV game. He just got lucky.

[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Roulette is not a positive sum game, though. If you keep playing, eventually you will lose everything to the house.

A positive sum game is where repeated plays will average out to a net gain. The secret is having enough initial capital to keep you alive if your initial gambles don't pan out. People living paycheck to paycheck don't have that

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You're correct, but you're also being a bit pedantic and ignoring the point OP is trying to make. It still illustrates the point just fine at 47.4% instead of 50%. Odds of winning 10 in a row go from 1:1,024 to 1:1,746.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Successful people have massive heads, got it

[–] Duralf@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

It's because they don't put work on them.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago

That gambling tower is defying the laws of physics and it will come crashing down.

Just like gambling, I guess.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hmm, this makes me want to play Lemmings again for some reason.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago

I recommend Humanity as a modern strange take on it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1581480/Humanity/

(Is available on PS+ Extra as well)

Also reminded me of Timekeepers, which is another old Amiga game which I suspect nobody here will remember.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fuuuck that takes me back to the dos days. They dont make games like they used to (in pure assembly I mean)

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Some madlads still do. Retro City Rampage (which is already over 10 years old now, damn) was ported to the NES, so that's some 6502 Assembly work there.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Image is actually cut off. What's missing is below each person there's a swimming pool. For poor people it's filled with water, for successful it's filled with money.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

To be realistic, shouldn't the stair be made of first panel's WORK piles?

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Give All Matters Bullish Attention

Or what does it stand for?

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago
[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

So it just means Shrimp? Hmm kay

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Who is this guy I've now seen in two gambling memes

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago

New Masters of the Universe hero dropped

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago
[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Wee lambs -

Gambol gambol gambol

[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

but the children ._.

[–] jkmooney@kbin.social -2 points 7 months ago