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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

Range anxiety isn't even real. The problem is really charging anxiety, and it's entirely solveable.

Let's describe it like this... You're on a road trip, and you realize that you are using more fuel than expected, and you're going to need to put gas in your car in the next 50 miles. No problem, you've been passing gas stations for the the last hour, there is practically two at every exit, and they have their prices up on signs that can be seen for miles around.

Now let's switch over to our EV. Same scenario, you need to charge in the next 50 miles. The most signage I've seen for EV charging is a single "amenities" sign showing available gas stations, and one of them has a small green strip on the bottom that said "EV charging". No info on how much it is going to cost. No info on what plugs are available. Sure, I can check one of the 3 apps I have for finding charging stations, but that involves using more range to pull over and scout around. My car will tell me if I won't make it to my destination and suggest a charging station, but now I mucking about in my infotainment screen instead of focusing on the road, which is also stressful.

So the easy fix for "range anxiety" is to put up signage for charging stations that lists the types of plugs they have, and incentivize them to put pricing up on their electronic billboards.

I'd actually like to see a chain of dedicated EV charging stations that have small venues attached to them, like a restaurant, bowling alley, putt putt, library, etc... where they get the benefit of a captive audience, and the people charging get the benefit of some food and activities for the 15-20 minutes that they are charging. If I had the money, I start the business myself...

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The author doesn't understand marginal utility. Not all time is equally valuable. When I am on a road trip, an extra 10-20% longer really sucks. The longer I can drive between charging, the shorter the trip, and the more time I can enjoy at my destination. Range consistently ranks as the highest concern for potential EV buyers for good reason. No matter how comprehensive the charging network, more frequent stops are annoying and time consuming.

Disclaimer: I own an EV.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I actually like the forced stops. I personally never want to drive for more than 3 hours without stretching my legs, so it's pretty convenient for me that the my car's range lines up with that.

[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Right, but you never want to be dependent on a stop.

We have an older 2017 leaf. You can highway about an hour and a half/two hours tops. If you get to that charge station and they only have 1chademo plug and it's out of order you're stuck using the slower "charge the car in 4-5 hours" plug.

For long trips we top up once we get to 40 percent or so, that way we can potentially skip a stop if need be.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

Which, sure, is great, but not what I or most want to do. My first car had a 50mpg rating, and a 14 gallon tank. You best believe I could get to my destinations with less than 2 fuel stops most of the time.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

That's understandable, and it sounds like an EV suits how you like to road trip very well.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

I hope the irrational fear of battery degradation lasts long enough to buy one used next year.

[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It’s overblown, but this is a stupid way to point it out. For those that dont stay entirely in highly populated areas, even stops for gas require some planning ahead.

I want to go all electric, but it would currently mean a 3.5 hour trip into the mountains would become a 8 hour trip because no EV can reliably handle that much altitude gain in winter on the route I take. There are no chargers on the way, thus having to take the considerably slower route. Even in summer A Better Route Planner doesn’t think it’s worth the gamble to try the direct route.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Depending on the frequency of said trips, you would probably still end up saving a tonne of money by just borrowing a diesel 4WD for those trips into the mountains (assuming it’d only be a couple of times a year).

[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I considered it, but there are two problems.

  1. Frequency like you already called out 2 Availability of good rentals. Most rental companies don’t put snow tires on their rentals and do not want you to use chains. Good way to get stuck.
[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Another option would be to borrow off friends/family, or in the event it’s frequent enough - either have one as a secondary vehicle (or go halves, if family are in a similar boat), the maths might still make it viable.

For our situation, an EV makes sense as we have solar & batteries (so ‘free’ charging, given our surplus sell-off rate has tanked to 1c/kWh), and would only find ourselves in a similar situation 1-2 times a year.

Most other trips are well within range, even driving ~250km to visit our regional relatives - and that’s before any stops for a nappy change, letting the dog go pee, stretching our legs or grabbing a coffee - where we could easily top up the battery over >80% in minutes at a fast-charging station.

But I am a strong believer that most range anxiety is overblown, and that just about everyone who switches over will not look back once they get used to it.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Most people drive around their city.

People don't have range anxiety about driving around their city.

It's for the few times they need to be able to depend on a car to take them to the next city.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Yeah.

I like going camping sometimes.

Or on longer road trips.

Range is an actual issue. The fact that I'm in the city MOST of the time I drive doesn't mean I'm in the city ALL the time I drive. I don't need some article telling me range anxiety is overblown when it isn't on those days.

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[–] bluGill@fedia.io 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The 1% trips are what people worry about, not the average trip. When you do make that dream road trip to the bckwoods...

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I've considered this a bit.

I preordered the slate because I like the idea a lot. If it works well enough for most of my driving then I can rent a car for long trips and camping.

But even if I get it I think I it will be quite a while before I also get rid of my ice vehicle. The convenience of a 5 minute fuel up is just too nice.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 6 points 5 hours ago

The convenience of a 5 minute fuel up is just too nice.

Not as convenient as plugging it in when you get home. (For those with the privilege to do so). One of my favorite parts of driving electric for the last ten years has been not having to stop at the gas station.

My partner and I actually have one electric, and one plug-in hybrid. We end up putting fuel in the hybrid about once every 4-6 months on average.

[–] Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago

I don’t press my brakes too hard on average either, might as well get rid of 3/4 of em

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah, however we are worried about non-typical days, like the surprise drive for four hours out of the city. Then we are quite literally fucked.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Superchargers exist.

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