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[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 70 points 7 months ago

You have to be awfully enamored with your personal narrative to take that as the moral.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Before I noticed what community this was in, I didn't even realize this was a jab at electric cars. I though the poster was talking about how abandoning electric cars would be the mistake we shouldn't repeat.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

That would be a more legitimate moral to take from it.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago

Ah yes electric cars weren’t good in the 1920s therefore can’t be good in the era of “stop using fossil fuels or go extinct”

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

But really, 100 miles on a charge was probably a pretty big deal in 1910

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

Yeah I’d say that sounds pretty great tbh. I had no idea the range was that useable way back in 1910….

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 33 points 7 months ago

Imagine if we would have continued to improve that technology for 100 years, instead of abandoning it for the ICE

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah exactly I am very angry about this. Not happy about it at all. Very bad no good. ☹️

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

We might have had shipstones by this point.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

AFAIK it was generally agreed that electric cars were better, but building the infrastructure for gas cars was easier.

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've seen one of these at a private museum in Arizona. It was pretty small but for it's day I could see it being useful in relation to what was avaliable then.

There's the more recent example of GM's late 1900s EV1 with the last gen model having a range of 160 miles from NiMH batteries.

There's various reasons why GM recalled all of the leased units and crushed most of them despite protests by customers that wanted to keep theirs. Some point to big oil, others to costs of the units and a lack of parts sales parts and service not needed for the units. I suspect dealers and oil would not be happy with the product.

The cars for their time are revolutionary due to being a non retrofit built from the ground up. They were among the first to use aluminum and plastics. They didn't really dent.

One famous movie director hid his EV1 from GM and eventually they allowed him to keep his leased unit. The remaining ones that were not crushed had their drive trains disabled or removed before being donated to museums or technical institutions.

So we have been struggling with this lesson more than once. Unfortunately it's not a matter with only one concern involved.

More recently the emotions of many have been stoked against electric cars with social media. I don't think I'll own an electric anytime soon due to my type of driving but I'm not out to get them either in my daily life like some are.

You have to think those that roll coal, park in electric charging spots with their lifted ICE trucks, and vandalize electric cars, don't have much going for them in their lives for this to be a focus. It's hard being a mouth breather I gather...

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

You misunderstand, being a mouth breather is incredibly easy. You don't have to think for yourself or care about anyone but yourself. What's difficult is being intelligent and empathetic.

Ignorance is bliss.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Electric vehicles aren't the problem, the fact that they are really expensive large computers with wheels that phone home constantly and track your every move, can be disabled remotely by the manufacturer, require mobile apps that track you and phone home constantly is the problem.

And they need OS updates to patch potentially fatal bugs.

[-] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago

This is a modern car thing and not in the least bit specific to EVs.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Actually is it even possible for you to not have any of this anymore? I think this is just a technology issue where the manufacturers try to capitalize on everything including the air inside of it if they could.

[-] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 49 points 7 months ago

Modern fossil fuel cars are unfortunately no different...

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"Moral of the story is that if you don't understand anything, you're doomed to making the same stupid comments like you did before."

FTFY

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Is this a negative comment by that guy? I take it as, "don't half-execute ideas". But it appears everyone agrees he's saying electric cars sucked then and will now.

I just find that hard for even dummies to fall for, we all know how much technology moves in a decade, nevermind a century.

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Unless it's a satirical page, it's called "car enthusiasts suck", so I'd read it as "we got out muscled by big oil once before, let's not let it happen again".

Edit: In comparison, the famous Ford Model T went up to 42mph compared to the 25mph of this electric car.

It had a 10 gallon petrol tank which I can't easily find the fuel economy stats for. Needless to say I expect the range of the Ford to be much higher than the electric car.

For a lot of people, I imagine it would mostly have came down to the same arguments as today: range, size, and upfront cost.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The Model T was a humble 20-25 MPG, so it had a decent range of up to 250mi iirc

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

A model T didn't beat those numbers by much, and in 1910 you had to start them with a crank which gave a nice element of danger to the whole thing.

Would have been cool to see 100+ years of improvements in electric cars instead of gas cars.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago
[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Are these still for sale? Just install some hazards and stay off the highway!

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's pretty much a golf cart

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