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[–] tone@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The dairy industry receives tens of billions in federal subsidies each year, and then dumps $100 million back on congress to solidify their position and earn even more favorable treatment from Congress. Really nasty system we have.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The system must be pasteurized…

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You can declare war on it all you want. It’s not going away no matter what it’s called. Seems like a real waste of money to be arguing about it.

[–] Addition@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It's modern capitalism 101. Can't beat them on the market? Start filing frivolous lawsuits until your competition collapses under the weight of legal fees even if they win every case.

[–] Streptember@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But if they can kick down at it, slow it down, and force all the brands to rebrand and rename their products, they might scare some people away from it for good and just make others ignore it due to confusing or unfamiliar naming.

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you're giving people much credit. The fact they accepted these drinks as it is to begin with speaks a lot for habit

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[–] DecafColdBrew@kbin.social 41 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Don't know about you, but I'm not going to start buying liquid milked from a cow, and stop buying liquid that was milked from a bunch of almonds, just because cow-milkers won't let almond-milkers say "milk". The non-dairy producers will just get creative and name their stuff something else, like Malk

[–] LegendofDragoon@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Or melk which is milk when pronounced with a couple of us accents

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I pronounce it 'millik' just for fun.

[–] Brokensilence410@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I did ever since an old Caddicarus video. Millik, it's just fun to say.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My wife does that. I find it mildly irritating.

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Same, and pellow instead of pillow. I pronounce things weird too which she calls me on so it's all in good fun.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Oh dang, I kind of want to buy Malk just because it's fun to say. It's like how every time I buy those frozen fake beef tips (Gardein? idk), we pronounce be'f as beff (rhymes with Jeff) and it makes me laugh. Gonna have some beff and malk for dinner. Advertisers have such an easy job with me, stg. Just make something good and call it something stupid and I'm in.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Milque. Or Milq if there's a "How do you do, fellow kids?" type on the naming committee.

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[–] skellener@kbin.social 32 points 11 months ago

Dairy industry can fuck right off!

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

it obviously doesn't confuse consumers: no one thinks you can milk an almond. It's just another way for a big business interest to try to push an agenda

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Big dairy's collusion with the US government is a much deeper issue than anyone suspects.

Here's a good read on it, I wish everyone knew about this:

https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/doctors-denounce-government-partnership-pizza-hut-push-cheese

tl;dr The US government is partnering with food manufacturers (and Pizza Hut) to increase the amount of cheese in products in order to prop up the dairy industry.

When it comes down to "can oat milk be called milk?" I think the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

FWIW - I consider myself "lactose ambivalent". I'm not intolerant. :) It just doesn't occur to me to buy dairy most of the time.

I do enjoy Oat Milk, I wish it didn't have as much sugar in it as it does. :( It really doesn't like me though!

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The US FDA is a captured organization. The familiar food pyramid was hogwash designed to support the grains industry and led to the obesity epidemic.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

When I was a kid it was the 4-4-3-2 plan...

4 servings of fruits or vegetables.
4 servings of breads or grains.
3 servings of milk.
2 servings of meat or protein.

https://i0.wp.com/the-avocado.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Scan10230a.jpg?resize=720%2C988&ssl=1

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Something I think gets glossed over by most folks is inflation figures effect on food. Things in the inflation index consumer basket, always subsidized. If the government didn't manipulate the price on these items they'd have to pay out more in pensions and social security payments.

Everything that effects inflation figures is subsidized. Corn gets to double dip. It's in so many good products and they make gas with it. Our corn is so subsidized that other countries don't allow it to be imported.

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[–] drekloge@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I get it. There's the old Lewis Black rant that you need a tit for "milk" and no one wants to drink something called "soy juice." But I think that letting plant-based alternatives label themselves as "milk" allows them to compete in an arena where they are a tiny fraction of sales.

Plant-based milk often uses much less water than animal milk.

TLDR: Oat milk is fukken awesome and also like the one thing my kid isn't allergic to.

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[–] TheOriginalMeh@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 11 months ago

Finally an excuse to use one of my favorite memes!

A convo between an angel and God about milk

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Just call it a milk substitute and be done with it.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is a hilarious thread, congrats gang

[–] ThatsTheSpirit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Just call em like a see um

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