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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 279 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That is embarrassingly low.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I agree and…

Whyshouldistopyellingatyou?

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[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The guy attempted a coup. He should be on trial for his life right now... and still 30+% of Americans might support him.

[–] anonono@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it's 30% if you only read the title, at the end of the article it says:

Two other polls released this week show President Joe Biden and Trump competitive in a 2024 matchup, with Biden edging Trump by just a point in surveys from Marist and Quinnipiac.

unless you check how they conducted the poll, you don't know if either one is correct.

was it made in an university campus or at the exit of an NRA convention? those will give you wildly different results.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The two claims are not in conflict. Election polls account for propensity to vote.

The 36% will turn out to vote. It will be an uphill struggle for the Dems to get turnout high enough to defeat them.

But the non-fash media will smugly proclaim him defeated anyway, helping to depress turnout enough that he wins. Again.

Dangerous times.

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[–] somas@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@flossdaily

@btaf45

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for-republicans-to-abandon-nixon/

When the House of Representatives voted in February 1974 to give the House Judiciary Committee subpoena power to investigate Nixon, it did not have the weight of public opinion behind it. According to a poll conducted by Gallup just days before the vote, only 38 percent of Americans were in favor of impeachment. And although a solid majority of Americans did eventually come to support impeachment, that moment didn’t arrive until quite late in the game.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

My friends, the MAGA cult stuck with Trump through racism, rape, hush money, and an attempted coup! They are not budging.

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[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 75 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I guess that's a good thing, but that % should be way higher for someone that committed treason, among numerous other crimes (as well as being just a terrible person in general.)

[–] jasonwaterfalls@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] neptune@dmv.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is superb. Wonderful.

I always knew Obama was a crook /s

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Something like 1/3 of the country is so deeply republican as to be a total loss. This % is pretty fucking solid.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Complete and utter indoctrination that's been heavily aimed at that demographic for the last three decades, at least.

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, screw that. Don't trust polls, vote like your democracy and your life depend on it.

[–] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

....becuase they very much may

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[–] Bendavisunlv6@lemmynsfw.com 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

36% is enough to elect, if they all vote.

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

Not to mention they get up to 3x electoral college voting power depending on how empty their state is.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Have you ever participated in one of these polls? I haven't. None of my friends have. Who are they polling?

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Other way to read this headline:

36% of Americans are equal parts moronic and clinically insane

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[–] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So 36% of Americans are fucking dumb. Which is lower than I would've guessed.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Been the same for 6 years. Even damn poll - he’s always hovering around that number no matter how hard he’s fucking up.

A lot of people really believe that Trump, the man who puts his name on everything, is a selfless martyr. Not a wealthy grifter looking for new suckers willing to line his pockets with cash.

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[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why we need ranked choice voting. The extremists would never win if we did.

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[–] RoccosBasilisk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

At this point I think 36% of Americans are just trolling

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

no worries mate, luckily the US election system does not have a flaw in it that technically allows 23% of voters to decide the presidency

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The bigger problem is that a large number of the remaining 36% will support him at all cost. (that last part is extremely important)

Those people see this as a WAR.

While everyone else is busy making some funny meme or writing a snarky comment on Twitter, those people are prepping for war. Radicalizing our youth. Stockpiling guns. Getting ready for a fight.

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[–] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

the fact that there are about 100 million Americans who didn't say they wouldn't support Trump says a lot about the state of America

[–] albertsy2@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now if only someone would do something about the gerrymandering

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Just a reminder that Republicans have won the popular vote once in the last 30 years, despite holding office for 12 of them.

What a majority of people want doesn't really matter in our system.

[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Should be higher. People should be aware of not only his crimes, but the buckets of allegations that are eerily similar.

[–] Slagathor@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

How many will turn out to vote though?

I can sit on my couch all day disapproving Trump, but if I don't cast a ballot then my opinion doesn't count for much.

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Thats still dangerous, here in hungary, orban (trump's comrade) got about 33% of voters, yet he has 2/3 of delegates, which means total control, as we have a fokd up electoral system, and the opposition votes are stayed home. Meanwhile hungary have skyhigh, record high inflation, budget cuts, tax raises, the national currency value is abysmal, and the corruption is visible from the Moon...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

We can only hope that these 64% will actually cast their vote when it counts.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which still implies there are 36% of the American voters with a room temperature IQ - if measured in °C.

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