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Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley on Thursday blamed a Democrat “plant” as the cause of an embarrassing exchange during a town hall in which she failed to mention slavery when asked about the causes of the Civil War.

The former South Carolina governor was roundly criticized for her answer at the event in New Hampshire on Wednesday in which she claimed the conflict was about “how government was going to run” and “the freedoms and what people could and couldn’t do.”

In an apparent effort to quell the backlash, Haley used a radio appearance Thursday morning to clarify her beliefs—and accuse the voter who asked her about the Civil War as being some kind of Democratic operative.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 106 points 11 months ago

"How dare that Democrat plant expose my real opinion!"

But seriously, if someone asks about the causes of the American Civil War, and one of the first words out of your mouth isn't "slavery," then "sus" is a generous interpretation of your character and beliefs.

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I'm trying to figure out how it matters. A question is a question. Her ducking the answer is her ducking the answer. Doesn't matter WHO asked the question.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It matters to the republican audience because now they can dismiss the whole thing as the fault of democrats. It doesn't have to make sense beyond that. Seemingly bad thing happened -> Democrats caused it -> Don't need to think about it anymore.

They're stupid.

[–] vanontom@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They're stupid.

This is why we can't have nice things, apparently. Weaponized stupidity, at this point. I'm still unclear as to the origins of the brain damage, though. Seems much worse in rural areas.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 20 points 11 months ago

Her ducking the answer is her ducking the answer.

And she's from the self-proclaimed party of personal responsibility.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The political affiliation of the questioner doesn't matter, but in today's politics, the fact that that is irrelevant itself doesn't matter. The GOP base is so well-trained by decades of Fox News that just making a claim - with zero evidence - that Democratic people are responsible is enough for that GOP base to assign blame to Democrats for any negative outcome.

There really is no more explanation. This is where we are as a country.

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

The real problem is that she didn’t handle it well. She will be a very good President for the war party.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

The GOP are so used to asking questions in bad faith, they assume all questions they answer that make them look bad were asked in bad faith.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 70 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why not just a Democrat? Hell, why not just a citizen? Am I not allowed to ask right wing politicians questions just because I haven't voted republican in 30-odd years? Is she not running to represent Americans, rather than exclusively Republican interests?

This is all rhetorical, don't answer.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

They don't see non-Republicans as Americans (or humans).

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s a soft ball question UNLESS you’re trying not to upset racists.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or you're one of those racists who was raised in the cult

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Nah, she's just a moron.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago

“Biden and the Democrats keep sending Democrat plants to do things like this, to get the media to react,” Haley said, according to NH Journal. “We know when they’re there. We know what they’re doing.”

Then Nikki, why didn't you answer "slavery"? Were you bamboozled by a clever democrat plant that outflanked you or were you aware the entire time about the democrat plant and walked into the trap willingly with your answer? Neither of those makes you look good at all. Or is it neither of these things and your attempt to cover your mistake are making you look even worse than your bad answer at the event, which I didn't even know was possible.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago

Damn those gotcha questions about basic U.S. history topics we all learned when we were 10.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There will definitely be Democrats to deal with if she becomes president she should probably be ready for them if she wants the job lol

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not only Democrats, but Democrats armed with trick questions about basic US History concepts

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“Hey Nikki? Could you tell me what the equal rights amendment is about?”

Should be interesting.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

"What an unfair attack on me! I am just trying to become ruler-for-life and these democracy-worshippers keep targeting me for my deeply held belief that they are not humans! Stop picking on me!"

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

She's showing who really is right now, I don't want to hear a word about how "not that bad" she is in the future.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

She's also very extreme on abortion (not surprising for a Republican of course).

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Anything but accountability, can't have that!

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Someone striving to be the president of the United States couldn't answer a very basic question about one of the largest moments in the countries history. It was a Middle School level question. But it's a Democrat plant making her look bad. Sure.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

The Democrats are responsible for the dumb shit I said that made me look bad.

Thanks Obama

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Yeah, because they are more educated, that makes them a plant? Shows just how dumb this lady really is.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was it a hibiscus? Those fuckers just can't help themselves.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It was a different plant, sounds almost like "holly".

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Dude asked an absolute layup of a question. She fumbled it because she tried to pander to her racist base, not because it was some kind of trick.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Damn those democrats and their gotcha questions!

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

These people are perpetual victims.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The "plant" didn't answer the question for her. It's not the question that sucked, it was the answer.

[–] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The democrats... they ensorcelled me

[–] neptune@dmv.social 1 points 11 months ago

What newspapers do you read and how do they shape your worldview?