Counterpoint: Neither of those organizations should exist at all.
this post was submitted on 13 Jan 2024
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Yea, they take up too much funding that could be used for other orgs!
....wait a minute
hah, I read that as "other drugs" and was confused to your point.
Cops are always power tripping. Would be good to have less law junkies.
Yea, useful ones like medicare and social services, right?! ... right..?
Woah there buddy, if you want housing, food and healthcare, go get incarcerated like everyone else.
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I don't think CIA_chatbot agrees with you
Orgies! Yeah!
Cannabis should be regulated by the FDA like any other vegetable. I should be able to buy weed at the farmer's market. Nobody says "oh you can only have two and a half ounces of kale at your house", "oh you can only grow so many tomatoes", "oh out of state residents can't buy more than a 12 pack"
Waaait if I am a US resident and go accross a state line im not allowed to buy a 30 pack of beer? Crossing a country border doesn't even prevent that.
That's what I'm saying, nobody does that because it would be insane. But an Iowa resident coming to Illinois can only get 15 grams of weed at a licensed adult use dispensary. Opposed to an Illinois resident who can get 30.
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You can't do that with tobacco, why allow it with cannabis?
In fairness, I think I should be able to get tobacco at the farmer's market too. But regardless of my personal feelings, I can buy as many smokes as I want in Iowa and they're like half the price of Illinois smokes.
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I knew a guy a long time ago who said "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should not be a branch of the government. It should be a convenience store."
Not that I agreed with him, but it was an amusing and unexpected take.
I give to you the ATF Convenience Store in Kingman, AZ
https://www.google.com/maps/place/ATF+Convenience+Store,+853+S+Ty+Rd,+Kingman,+AZ+86401/
Sure thing that "legalized everywhere" you talk about:
C'mon Europe you're supposed to be cool
They mentioned the ATF. It was explicitly US centric and while a bit hyperbolic it is becoming more common there.
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Map no longer accurate, Minnesota legalized recreational this part year 😁
Also here in belgium, it is only decriminalized up to 3g.
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America is not everywhere. At least mention the country where your question applies to instead of thinking you're the center of the internet. Before we try to find a connection between Automatic Transmission Fluid and Data Encryption Algorithm .
They make a North American event and call it the World Series. Hence North America is the whole world. QED.
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While it doesn't work as well with or as your joke, the ATF is actually now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. So we need to add the E as well and we can spell FACET, which is less fun. Or use M for Marijuana and spell FMEAT.
Combine Weed and Tobacco into "Smoking" and make it SAFE
Where is the C coming from? Firearms, Alcohol, C, Explosives, Tobacco?
Cannabis.
Gotcha, thanks
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Its still illegal at a federal level and I don't see that changing any time soon. You can't smoke your pot and work for the government.
Unfortunately it still falls under schedule 1. Even if states legalize it the federal government still considers it the same danger as heroin.
Don’t get me wrong. It shouldn’t be but until we get a federal law changing that then it’s still going to fall under DEA.
And unfortunately, the scheduling is determined by none other than the DEA itself. So I wouldn't hold my breath on them forfeiting funding and purview over of anything as trivial as medical research or the will of the people. At least not easily or without some other political quid pro quo.
DEA added it by an order from the AG under Nixon.
Biden could get it removed the same way if he wanted to actually hold up on his campaign promise.
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If you've ever had to deal with the ATF you know why this is a magnificently terrible idea.
FDA all the way.
Fun fact, while working "the season" in NorCal before it was legalized (when it was still crazy lucrative to do so), the ATF and CAMP were the ones raiding the farms, not the DEA.
Mainly because of the lack of ATF oversight and their FUCKING MASSIVE operations budget.
If people really understood what they have done in the past, that agency would be dissolved overnight.
Either hhs or fda.
Speaking of HHS (from NYT):
Marijuana is neither as risky nor as prone to abuse as other tightly controlled substances and has potential medical benefits, and therefore should be removed from the nation’s most restrictive category of drugs, federal scientists have concluded.
The recommendations are contained in a 250-page scientific review provided to Matthew Zorn, a Texas lawyer who sued Health and Human Services officials for its release and published it online on Friday night. An H.H.S. official confirmed the authenticity of the document.
But sadly
Last month, Michael D. Miller, a Justice Department official, defended the D.E.A.’s prerogative in making the final decision on the administration’s position.
“D.E.A. has the final authority to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule a drug under the Controlled Substances Act, after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and H.H.S.’s scientific and medical evaluation,” he wrote in a letter to Representative Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat who has pushed the D.E.A. to reconsider marijuana.
I see no motivation for the DEA to voluntarily forfeit power and money just because it's the right thing to do. Also think of career DEA guys' pride and ego. They are not going to easily admit they've been wrong and that their rhetoric has been overheated for the past 50 years.
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I don't even understand why those 3 things are together in the first place. None of those things go together in any kind of way I can think of that there would be an organization dedicated to them.
Dip, beer and guns go together like "peas and carrots"
Things that are legal for personal use but heavily restricted
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