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This is a thought I had mostly to do with Lemmy but I feel likes it's relevant elsewhere in Fediverse.

As far as I know Lemmy doesn't lock posts after a set amount of time like Reddit does and I feel like this is a good thing for smaller niche communities. For example if I created one for a one off video game or cancelled TV show it could be hard to generate new content to post to really help it take off. It would be nice to see people engaging with old posts when they stumble across a community and subscribe to it.

I feel like I haven't see it a ton yet but I hope it's a way Lemmy and the Fediverse can be different from sites like Reddit.

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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 66 points 5 months ago

I've noticed that some people do use other filters than "Hot" or they scroll back in smaller communities, because I'll occasionally get comment replies to posts I made months ago. It's cool to see.

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 months ago

Let's all agree right now that we're not going to be a community that necro-shames.

EDIT: JUST TO BE CLEAR I MEAN MAKING PEOPLE FEEL BAD FOR POSTING IN OLD THREADS AND ONLY THAT ONE USAGE OF THE TERM

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 5 months ago

I, however, am okay with both.

[-] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

🤨 Be careful where you take this conversation...

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[-] amanaftermidnight@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

We don't know how the fediverse would play out in the long term but I expect a few things:

  • Lemmy devs will implement locking old posts in the future
  • instance owners will decide on their post locking policies
  • Many instances will not survive for as long as Reddit survived till today
  • Third party archivers (perhaps archive.org among others) will need to step in and archive posts. Ofc archived posts is not interactible.
[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 6 points 5 months ago

I agree with your points. Especially the third one. I do hope a majority of instances op-out of locking posts but I could see large instances like lemmy.world definitely jumping to do it and focus more on new content and expansion

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 24 points 5 months ago

It would be good if a comment bumped a thread to the top of the "new" feed.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

flashbacks to single word "bump" posts

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 17 points 5 months ago

I feel like Reddit's version of bump was people commenting This all the time

[-] ouRKaoS 10 points 5 months ago

Nothing was more infuriating that being on a tech forum, seeing someone post the same problem you were having, 4-5 bumps, then the OP saying "Nevermind, I got it" and the thread closing

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 23 points 5 months ago

Does the Active feed work this way?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that's what it does

[-] mac@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

Active is a combination of that and hot but is essentially hard capped at 2 days. Things past that wont show up

Theres the new comments sort which works like that though

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

There’s a “sort [posts] by new comments” option.

[-] webjukebox@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

To me, this option works much better than "Active", "Hot" and others.

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[-] finthechat@kbin.social 19 points 5 months ago

This is the way it should be.

I've never understood the people who get upset over 'necroing' a thread, whether it is on an old school forum or something formatted like Reddit.

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it necroing posts on Reddit makes sense. There's a lot of very specific posts that can vary slightly from each other but I find with forums you can get a general post for a topic that has 30+ pages of responses and it can be a bit of a pain to comb through all of them at times. In my experience I see a lot of people linking to other comments in the forum because something has already been brought up a few times.

This is basically what @technomad@slrpnk.net said about beating a dead horse but I feel like it's slightly more tolerable with a Reddit style system where there's more posts with at least minor differences. It's a bit easier to follow.

This could also just be the forums that I have used shaping my opinion

[-] technomad@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

Maybe something similar to do with 'beating a dead horse'

the problem/issue was (potentially) already discussed, and renewing the issue is tiresome for the regulars who see it repetitively brought up? This is just my guess.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

If it is about a problem they had and the thread didn't have an answer, then they should be obliged to necro if they found a solution.

[-] finthechat@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago

For technical discussion, sure. I'll be one of the first people to say look at the sticky, look at the pins, look at the megathread, read the FAQ, read the wiki.

For purely social discussion like casual chat, entertainment discussion, or random musings, I would say it doesn't make sense.

[-] fogstormberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 5 months ago

this post is going to blow up in like 3 years

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 17 points 5 months ago

yes I think there can be a lot of power here, Reddit was really bad about this

sometimes I like to sort posts by "New Comments" so it's like an old style forum, Reddit couldn't do this at all and it was awful, Lemmy's "Active" sort is also pretty good for this

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/03-votes-and-ranking.html

[-] GarytheSnail@programming.dev 16 points 5 months ago

Oddly enough, just last week I got a reddit notification that someone had replied to a comment I made... 11 years ago.

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago

I got gold off a door pun once, 2 years later. Had a hand full of 3-4 year old comments get a reply. BUT 11 DAMN YEARS?

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[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 5 months ago

One thing standing in the way of this is the inability to move identities in Lemmy/Kbin. This is my 3rd time with a "Maximum Derek" user in the Threadiverse; my first was on Kbin back in June when it was really struggling, then I went to a Lemmy instance that just disappeared one day. If you try to engage with any of my posts I made while on those servers, I'll never know it.

[-] webjukebox@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I miss the old OpenID way.

We need a very, very simple ID server that everybody should be able to install, even as an app for smartphones and ActivityPub (and others) able to communicate to.

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

I hope this one works better! I signed up at tchncs when I started Lemmy, and it seems like I chose well :)

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[-] Papanca@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I've had it happen that i joined a community and commented in some interesting thread and only then noticed that it was 3 or even 6 months old

[-] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Perfectly fine in my opinion. It isn't like oldschool forums where a reply bumps a thread to page 1.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago

I've seen comments and replies on my posts, that came weeks or months after I made them. I'll respond to them if they are anything more than "Haha yeah that's cool!"

There has to be more to add to the conversation, otherwise it will be like posting a 3 year old article to the news community.

I definitely encourage people not to be shy to post and comment on stale communities that haven't seen recent activity, that can get the ball rolling to revive it.

[-] MBM@lemmings.world 13 points 5 months ago

Hm I always avoid replying to anything older than, say, 2 days because I assume it's pointless and/or it annoys people

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

I definitely wouldn't find it annoying.

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Pointless part I can understand, but annoying? What's more, it should prove what you make effort to post can still get engagement over time, and not scattered to winds.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

I work with a product enjoying a 27 year support window.

That's WAY more than 2 days.

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[-] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

It will definitely start to happen more as more forums start to join the fediverse (discourse for Eg).

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.de 10 points 5 months ago

Aren't forums absolutely notorious for forbidding "thread necromancy"?

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 5 months ago

ive been runnin kbin for > 6 months... its kind of neat how i get comments from months ago from some new instance that just spun up somewhere, or some newer user commenting on older stuff out there in the ether.

youre right though, gotta stick with your account once you have it.. its like email. very targeted.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It would be nice to see people engaging with old posts when they stumble across a community and subscribe to it.

One barrier that will make this difficult is that instances only get a community's feed from the moment they first subscribe to it, if that community's home instance is on another server. So if you're a user on - say - leminal.space and you're the first person on that server to subscribe to - say - Musicals@kbin.social then you will not see any of that community's old posts, only posts created (or boosted) after you've subscribed. This makes it difficult to engage with old content unless other people on your instance have been members of that community for much longer.

This is one of the issues with the fediverse model that doesn't exist in a centralised model like reddit. And - sadly - smaller, niche communities are the ones most likely to be affected by this limitation, because they're the ones least likely to be federated to a large number of instances. It makes smaller, less active communities look even more inactive than they actually are.

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[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

I find myself commenting on “older” posts fairly frequently, I’m not actually upset at there being “less” content.

This place feels like Reddit did 15 years ago.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

I often find I can't see old posts in active communities, and on masto my instance only holds 2w worth of cache because the owner is but one man not a corpo with endless storage.

[-] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Some content does get locked but usually it's when the comments go off the rails, so it's pretty rare

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