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“I’m just ashamed that this bill even came into fruition,” a Lexington council member said.

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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 157 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The bill also gives people the ability to justify use of “defensive force” upon an unhoused person in instances of criminal trespass, including “unlawful camping” on the owner’s property. This would allow property owners to use deadly force against unhoused people on their property without facing criminal consequences.

Sounds like Kyle Rittenhouse is gonna get his mom to drive him to Kentucky. Seriously though, this is fucking disgusting legislation. Homeless people are dehumanized enough but Kentucky is on the verge of legalizing hunting them for sport. What vile pieces of shit those 45 Republican co-sponsors are.

[–] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 56 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So they can kill squatters? Next step, people who are late on rent?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure! Then they can have an estate sale so they can recoup their "losses!"

/s because I'm pretty sure it's needed, sadly

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 112 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"Then he will say to those on his left, `Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' 44 "They also will answer, `Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' 45 "He will reply, `I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' 46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

-Some Socialist Groomer Theater Kid

I'd bet any amount of money that most of not all of this bill's co-sponsors profess (at least surrounding election time) to a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and a striving to be more Christlike. And all of them seemingly impervious to cognitive dissonance.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 98 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)
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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

oh look Republicans wanting to kill Americans again

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (6 children)

This proposed law also has a three strikes law in it. Life in prison without parole for 3 felonies.

Also, apparently child defendants aren't allowed to have a jury? That's not highlighted, so it's current law there.

This entire thing is an authoritarian wet dream. Create outlaws, and then turn them into slaves or bodies.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It also bans charitable organizations from paying more than $5000 in bail.

For violent felonies, it doesn't allow them to pay bail at all.

Which means anyone could provoke anyone to violence and they would be jailed with no hope of escape. Including ostensibly a homeless person by destroying their stuff.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I was homeless just North of their border so the police here in Ohio set me up with a fake felony to keep me in jail. A dude stopped his truck in front of me while I was Doordashing, cornered me into a fist fight, and then told the police I hit him with my car. The people in the car behind me also backed him up. It never happened, so why was it so simple for me to be locked in jail indefinitely with my and lawyer telling me COVID suspended the fair and speedy trial? I cannot handle being in a noisy environment and have avoidant personality disorder, so I eventually caved to the plea deal. Now here I am nearly 2 years out with an ok job and my own place but I need to come up with $1100 before the end of the month for my fines or go back to court.

I'm convinced they're just trying to create a slave class. If you are an easy target, they'll take you and mark your record so you have to be cheap labor for three upper class.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

I bet the creators of this law claim to be Christian & mistakenly think they are going to spend eternity in Heaven.

It always amazes me that so many self-professed Christians have almost as much disrespect for their religion as I do.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I bet the creators of this law claim to be Christian

I bet they also claim to be "pro life"...

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[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 50 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I feel like the biggest issue is what would amount to homeless corralling, and if they violated the law by living outside the designated zone, they'd be fined. The state knows they wouldn't be able to pay, and thus 90+ days of prison labor.

"The proposed legislation grants cities the authority to designate specific areas for unhoused individuals. If individuals are found outside of the designated area, residing in a tent, hut, temporary shelter, or vehicle with the intention to sleep, they may face misdemeanor charges, leading to a fine of $5,000 and a potential imprisonment of up to 90 days."

Don't get me wrong, the deadly force bits are definitely worse, but I feel like what I quoted above is the true motivation.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Your vehicle is your private property, so this is saying a legally parked person on their own private property who intends to fall asleep can be punished with a 5k fine and 90 days in jail.

No more going out to your car over break to take a nap.

[–] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or pulling over on a long drive

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They'll jail people who sleep at rest stops, too. :(

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[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so the Sanctuary Cities that preceed the Bell Riots.

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[–] FringeTheory999@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hmmm. This feels eerily similar to an episode of star trek deep space nine.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (22 children)

Because nothing says 'qualified immunity' quite like gunning down the homeless

I can't believe I wanted to live in America fifteen years ago. Now I wanna stay the hell away. Y'all are unhinged.

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And this is the most disgusting thing I've read today. The world's moving in a great direction /s

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The most disgusting thing you've read so far today

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Kill a person I don't like... drag them into tent into my back yard... claim it was leagal deadly force against the unhoused on my land.

The perfect murder.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

unconstitutional but since when have the "law and order" police not pissed on that piece of paper?

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Not that the unhoused deserve this--it's vile, violent, and fascist.

Not that this bill will pass, even in Kentucky, or be upheld by the courts, even in Kentucky.

But the fact that this decriminalizes shooting homeless people for anyone means that 100% someone would use it to shoot their neighbor, probably on purpose, while claiming they thought he was homeless.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 months ago

The party of "Pro-Life"...

[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago (7 children)

How do you know if someone is “unhoused”. Does this apply to anyone who is outside?

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago

Sure. That's why on Purge Day you'll want to lock the doors of your luxurious gated house and not go out until it's over.

Main problem here is that the legislation appears to have made every day into Purge Day. They'll need to clarify that, I guess.

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[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago

"How do we solve the housing crises?" Kentucky: "Thats easy! Just aim for the center of mass"

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

After reading the article, it's 100% about creating a slavery pool. Murdering hobos is just icing on the cake.

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[–] fsr1967@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (7 children)

The bill also gives people the ability to justify use of “defensive force” upon an unhoused person in instances of criminal trespass, including “unlawful camping” on the owner’s property. This would allow property owners to use deadly force against unhoused people on their property without facing criminal consequences.

I hope this bill has some "defensive force" applied to it before it becomes a law.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This is the Christian Nation they want to build.

Murder the disadvantaged, without consequence.

Just like Jesus would have done! /s

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago

Jesus fucking Christ, Kentucky

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Time to arm the homeless, I guess.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago

I think the headline writers need some lessons in political antagonism. This should be "New GOP bill legalizes murder of vulnerable people such as disabled American veterans." "Pro-military" party? Patriotic party? Thank you for your service, lol. We're really pro-imperialism. Now that we have destroyed you, we just want you to go away.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The GOP is desperately trying to make everything outside of being a wealthy white male conservative illegal.

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[–] bcrown@lemmy.l0l.city 21 points 10 months ago
[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago (17 children)

As I see it, the Kentucky GOP member(s) that supported this bill stated their intentions, the unhoused now have every valid reason to protect themselves against this mortal threat with appropriate force and it would be self-defense, and anyone who views the unhoused as part of their community does as well and it would be community defense.

Until appropriate negative consequences are a possibility from people standing up for themselves, the bad guys will keep winning.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Back in 1990, San Diego CA downtown was a run down area. As a young man, I saw and help the area flourish. But that was the whole gentrification thing. I, a poor minority person of color helped make the place awesome...for someone else to buy and for me and my family to leave. However, as I left during the pandemic downtown seems to have grown back to its old drug and homeless habits. Tent city once again, but this time the are is unaffordable for anyone to try and help clean it up. It's a nice place to live but now the question is, if only rich people live there, who will bridge the homeless people over back to humanity? Right? If there's no bridge class, then the only solution is to get rid of them by force. That, in the eyes of the rich who live there. If you're not rich and barely getting by, you're basically the help.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

The Republican speaker of the house tells us we can’t fully commit to Ukraine until we address the issues in our own home.

This is what they envision when they talk about problems here at home. They want to be able to persecute/harm/kill anyone they perceive as lesser whether that be a homeless person or an LGBT person, or other such minority.

Fuck these christofascist monsters, Jesus Christ himself would be disgusted. Care for the poor and the sick? Nah that’s woke Jesus, conservative Jesus cheers you on as you bash a person in the face simply for having less money than you

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This law works both ways, right?

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[–] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My fellow murricans, it really a free nation if we can’t come together to shoot homeless people in the streets?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 19 points 10 months ago

This articles title is doing more dodging then Neo in the matrix, It is a bill making it legal to shoot a type of person if found outside their assigned ghetto. Not using the word "bum", "homeless" or "camper" is doing no one favours other then to obfuscate the reality of this.

[–] cyborgbabyman@lemmy.l0l.city 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Rosco@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Why did this distinction was made in the first place? Do cops in Kentucky have a habit of gunning down homeless people?

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

No, it's so ordinary people like you and me can do it. Guess they were jealous the police were having all the fun.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

Licenses to Kill for everyone! Seriously though, can you really make murder legal, and not face any federal consequences?

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