JFC. I already knew that the amount of rape going on was bad, but still. What a goddamn world we live in.
this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2024
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Yeah this is even more harrowing when you consider this is only tallying rapes in roughly half the country.
Rape in pro birth States was already above the national average. Now that they have given rapist the green light to try to extend the control over their victims indefinitely with a child.
Their plan is working.
I would really love it if a Pro-lifer could come and comment here about how this is such a good thing. And how this will benefit both the mother and child. How this is going to foster such a wonderful happy family...
...but they won't. Their support is surface level. "Babies good, abortion bad." God forbid you take off their rose-tinted glasses and expose them to the fucking realities of this world. Fuck them and their ignorance. They're ignorance fueled these policies and the politicians that pushed them.
Wonder how many 64k child born that will grow up hating thier existence. Causing more dissent.
Well, as a product of rape myself, I can tell you that I am a firm supporter of abortion. I absolutely should have been aborted, but here we are. Pro-birthers are unbelievably selfish assholes.
Well I, for one, am glad you are here.
I think I get what you’re trying to say, I just wish I existed on better terms, you know? I mean, I’m happy with who I am and how I turned out, and I love my life now, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I shouldn’t exist. I’d love to have been a happy little accident, or even the love child of an elicit affair, rather than to have my very existence be a constant reminder of hurt and betrayal and the worst moment of somebody’s life. It’s a raw deal, but not anything I want to take back, if that makes any sense.
That all makes perfect sense to me. hug I wish I could take that away.
Well, they'll be living in a fiery wasteland, so I'm going to say, most.
"PRO-LIFE" POLICIES EMPOWER RAPISTS.
ALWAYS HAVE.
FULL STOP.
We should start calling them pro rape.
That's a staggering amount of rapes, and it's not even all of them
Not a surprise. Rape is more about control and power than sexual gratification so anti abortion laws encourage would be rapist. There's no greater way to display power and control over someone than to take away their body autonomy. Pro birthers are the lowest of the low. They secretly love the idea of a women being raped and becoming pregnant as a result. In their mind the victim is at least good for something.
520,000 rapes that we know of
They might as well legalize rape now.
Dictator Trump will surely see to this.
You know what is mind boggling to me?
No matter how frustrated I got with my sex life with my ex, the thought of rape was very much a "why would you do that to someone you care about" thought response.
That says to me that the perpetrators lack the ability to really care or empathize.
How many of those 520k rapes resulted in any prosecution? How many rapists are still out there, going about life lacking any form of human empathy?
That's because rape is not about sex or being horny. Rape is about violence. It's a power play where the perpetrator's goal is to dominate and harm someone else to boost their own selfish and misguided self esteem.
Fuckin right man. My wife has said that if I "need" sex and she's not in the mood, she'll just let me do it. I tell her I can't do that, just feels wrong and rapey if she's not into it.
I can only hope these kinds of numbers mean there's a "few" highly prolific rapists out there doing a whole lot of it, but that would be way too optimistic I suppose?
A few Genghis Khan's?
The number of rape cases here is hard to grasp... Holy shit.
Edit: I looked up the statistics and it's absolutely insane. "it is estimated that 734,630 people were raped (threatened, attempted, or completed) in the United States in 2018."
In a country with 330 million, that's 0.22% of the population in ONE YEAR. If your probability of not being raped in any given year is 0.9978, to see what's the likelihood to go 30 years without being raped, you take 0.9978^30 and you get 0.936 so you have a 6.4% chance to get raped in a span of 30 years. These numbers are absolutely hard to comprehend, please tell me I got the math wrong...
... WTF is wrong with humanity.
Based off the women in my life who've been comfortable enough to talk to me about it those numbers seem about right sadly. If anything they're low because I'm sure some of them don't talk to me about what's happened to them. I'm really disgusted with humanity pretty much all the time these days.
you did not do the math wrong. the current state of things is absolutely unacceptable
I was hoping I was, in my sleep deprived state, put the decimal point wrong or something, because these numbers are horrifying, and yet it's not discussed as often as other issues which are far less urgent. Before seeing this post,, I would have assumed it was an order of magnitude less common, and even then it would have been too much.
Now try the math again, but per gender... I didn't try it but I suspect a bigger number for one of them.
The numbers are harder to pin down for men. There’s a lower likelihood of reporting for one. But there’s also the fact that a lot of men don’t even realize they’ve been raped, thinking “Dude I got laid last night? Sweet.”
Even the CDC does a terrible job of reporting the numbers in my opinion. 1 in 4 women and 1 in 26 men experience attempted or completed rape. But 1 in 9 men were “made to penetrate someone” which insinuates against their will, which imho is again rape.
There’s also a problem of legal language. In many states, it’s just impossible for a man to be raped. And when it is possible, it often doesn’t include “made to penetrate” (aka forced sexual contact) as rape.
I looked it up, and saw some source saying 91% female and 9% male, but their source is really old (I can't take it and use the numbers from 2018 with it), and I'm pretty sure there are a lot more men who don't report it because of cultural garbage. I would expect it to be between 65% to 80% women victims... But my hunch might be way off...
I do remember reading that the group at the highest risk being transgender people, but I don't remember any numbers.
I'm sure if I dig deeper I'll find better data, but I'm on my phone...
Your math isn’t wrong but your premise is… which is still terrible. Once a person has been raped, they have a higher chance of being raped again. 35 times higher, in fact.
"it is estimated that 734,630 people were raped (threatened, attempted, or completed) in the United States in 2018."
Doesn't the wording of this means that this statistics doesn't count the number of rape acts that have been committed, but the number of people who've been raped that year. That means that if a person was raped 10 times that year, the number above would go up by 1. Am I misreading this?
Can't their bodies just shut it down? I was told that they can.
Women should be armed and dangerous. No table, can't change my mind.
Republicans, through legislation are paving the way towards a fascist dictatorship which will include lots of rape.
All fascist dictatorships included lots of rape. It is one of the defining social characteristics of authoritarian societies and was a present in the regimes of Mussolini and Hitler as well as their more modern counterparts such as the regimes of Saddam Hussein and ISIS.
These two things are really the same thing and are inseparable because it is always about power and the maintaining of authoritarian power dynamics. This is just what right-wingers do and have always done.
Those numbers are heartbreaking. Even worse, I would expect these numbers to have gone up and continue to go up because of the abortion ban.
It's also sad to see how weak the democrats are that they haven't passed a bill to make abortion legal yet.
Wow. That is an insane number.
64,565 rapists live openly raping women in Texas. Is this not the more concerning concern? Like sure, 65k women are pregnant now and who cares about their life right? But that's 65k within just a few months. I assume it's gotta be less than 65k rapists? Most probably more than 1 rapist. So middle of the road, a rapist that raped 4 women in the past few months so like 13,000 rapists. How long will it take 13,000 rapists to rape everyone you know personally? Wife, daughter, mom, friend? Isn't that also important? Okay maybe keep abortion available until you Texas chop 13,000 dicks off?
Oh, before we forget,
"But but but ..... not all men!"
What a fucked up place to live.
So fucked up man
Sad