This isn’t even false equivalency, it’s just blatantly false.
this post was submitted on 26 Jan 2024
353 points (74.3% liked)
Political Memes
5404 readers
3599 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I only see this argument made by conservatives. It is a deliberate attempt to drive a racist and LGBT-phobic wedge between the white working class and the Democratic Party. I have never seen a progressive person demand less support for the rights of minorities.
I also favor raising the minimum wage, making universities free to attend, and having universal healthcare - but LGBT rights aren’t the reason we don’t have those things. The GOP is the reason we don’t have those things, and it’s not like if the Dems said “Fuck it, arrest and kill the gays” that the GOP would suddenly support workers’ rights.
If you want to help the poor, vote out the party that says shit like this.
Conservatives, and useful idiots.
The only people I see claiming both sides are the same are people who have interest in either democrats failing as a party, or the whole country failing and collapsing in general.
load more comments
(14 replies)
You know who posts boTh sIdEs memes? Republicans trying to distract you from the shit they are doing.
load more comments
(2 replies)
The Republican one should also say no with Nazi flags, crucifix, and a gun
It's sad to see this up voted so much right under an article about democrats trying to provide free community college.
I feel bad for posting this now because I wasn’t trying to make false equivalencies. Unequivocally, I find that someone identifying as a Democrat politician is more likely to be progressive and humanitarian than one identifying as a Republican politician.
I am not sure the demeanor of the Democratic Party in general has anything to do with intrinsic ideology because many party members used to be against gay marriage in the 90s. It’s a good thing that one party (Democrats) is open to changing itself according to public will, which is what you’d want in a representative democracy.
What this means to me is that you shouldn’t take party demeanors for granted, and keep pushing for the change you want.
Edit: so yeah, if you don’t want four years of conservatives breaking all progressive pillars of society, go out and fucking vote!!
Never feel bad for posting content. Lemmy needs content.
Election time, so of course there's these "both sides" bullshit posts that will try to tell you that Donald Trump is somehow the better choice, cause he at least stares you in the eyes while he fucks you.
But not even a dinner first?
😟
👉 👈
He'll make you pay for it.
And still not even reach around...
load more comments
(1 replies)
Meanwhile in reality:
I take it back, that poor unionist on the right is about to receive a maximum power Biden Blast
the only president to ever join the picket lines alongside unionized citizens
load more comments
(6 replies)
Apathy gets nothing done
Right, we need to be organizing, protesting, and working to destroy the current power structure.
true, but both sides do need to be criticizeable, not just the worse one.
Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with "they're the same, democrats just put on a hat" is dishonest and reductionist. This kind of thing actively causes harm and plays into the hands of the party that's objectively worse for anyone that's not rich.
Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with "they're the same, democrats just put on a hat" is dishonest and reductionist.
It's really not. My favourite example is Roe v. Wade - how long did democrats have to fix it? How long did they use it in their campaigns in the lines of "if you don't vote democrats, republicans will overturn it"?
Yeah, they're the better choice, for sure, but they're not a good choice.
And your own words show exactly what I mean.
There's a marked difference between lazy fucks who didn't properly bring it across the finish line and people actively working to make things worse. Correct my believe if I'm wrong: unless it's a constitutional amendment, laws are fairly easy to overturn still.
And to 'how many years'.... How many years did people have to vote for progressive candidates in the lower levels to change the actual base of the party to where they want it to be? How many years have the voters not used to make it the party they want it to be?
This kinda shit is so fucking often due to progressives wanting things to be a certain way, but not putting in the legwork because "it's a lost cause anyway". With the democrats you have a chance to change the party into the progressive direction. Take an example from those maga assholes - it doesn't take a lot of them to shift the republicans to be even worse.
load more comments
(6 replies)
load more comments
(5 replies)
US citizens need to destroy the first past the post voting system. It's fucked and undemocratic and it needs to be replaced.
The problem is that only people who came into power using the current system would have a chance to change the system. And why would anyone want to change the system that brought them to power?
This is broadly true, but it's not completely unheard-of for systems to change despite this.
load more comments
(5 replies)
It’s one of many things that need to be done to fix the US.
~~US~~ citizens need to destroy the ~~first past the post voting~~ system. It’s fucked and undemocratic by design and it needs to be ~~replaced~~ abolished.
FTFY
I'm not sure I get you point.
This article is very US centric and it only talks about (the obvious) flaws in the US system. Other democracies might not be perfect, but many don't have the problems mentioned there.
We could completely abolish any system of government, but cooperating in societies of thousands and millions of people would be close to impossible.
load more comments
(4 replies)
Republicans: how about we make it worse.
This is fucking dumb as hell, rainbow capitalism is the fucking tip not the whole goddamn iceberg.
This is just another braindead “both sides” meme
Meanwhile:
view more: next ›