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Alina Habba "can't even do things that you learn in evidence class," says CNN legal analyst Elie Honig

A former White House attorney for Donald Trump said Wednesday he's "not surprised" the former president is looking for new representation for his appeal of the defamation trial verdict, calling out Trump lawyer Alina Habba's management of the case. Trump announced late Tuesday that he was seeking new counsel for his appeal of the $83.3 million verdict in the defamation lawsuit brought by writer E. Jean Carroll. Habba, who served as Trump's lead attorney and frequently clashed with the presiding judge throughout the trial, handled the case "in the mafia way," Ty Cobb told CNN Wednesday, according to HuffPost.

“She’s done his bidding. She's articulated his political narrative of victimization and unfairness in the judicial system and made some outlandish claims, including the conflict claims,” Cobb continued. "And she lost, so she's a loser. I’m not surprised that Trump is looking for appellate representation.”

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 123 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

I doubt he will replace her with anyone more competent. He can’t afford anyone good, has a poor track record of picking lawyers, and he’s burned too many bridges without the cash to pay for it.

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He’s also stiffed multitudes of his previous service providers and contractors, IIRC.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 36 points 9 months ago

Trumpworld Lawyers Keep Getting Stiffed on Fees, apparently this is a very common occurrence in Trumpworld. Everyone is stiffing everyone.

[–] sab@kbin.social 40 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Also his idea of "good" is someone who doesn't contradict him. He wants to run the case his way, and no reasonably intelligent lawyer will ever agree to that as it will make them look like idiots and the case is a sure loss.

[–] PilferJynx@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

You'd have to be paid enough up front to destroy your career. I don't think he has the money for that.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And a huge rack is a bonus.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Pretty key feature for her predictable career pivot to right wingnut TV legal commentator in 3, 2, 1...

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

The attorney for the plaintiff even said her entire demeanor changed when trump was out of the room. He wants loyalty, competence optional.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Guess we can assume Alina Habba isn't "reasonably intelligent" then cause... man, does she look like an idiot.

[–] Dwayne_Elizondo_Mountain_Dew_Camacho@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“Somebody said to me ‘Alina, would you rather be smart or pretty?’ and I said ‘Oh easy, pretty… I can fake being smart’.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/alina-habba-trump-lawyer-court-b2481296.html

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This really talks to the world view of these people. They are so stupid they think everything is a show put in for other people. They believe everyone is just like them. That's why they project more than AMC. Their obsession with "virtue signaling" is a perfect example.

[–] sab@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

At least this lady is self aware. She knows her strength isn't her legal skills, and she knows she won't be young forever. So for her taking on a big case and being exposed as incompetent for the whole world might be worth it - it's unlikely she had much of a legal career to destroy anyway.

She has also inflicted more damage on Trump than any of his opponents have. I respect that.

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well that's obviously true! Trump's one of the greatest legal minds ever, so any ordinary lawyer should simply recognise this and follow Trump's lead. Anything else means you're a dumb lawyer /s

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a good point. I should offer my services and then let him take the stand to his own detriment. I'll even say I'll do it for free upfront.

[–] lgstarn@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That's kind of a cool idea, but depending on where you are this is illegal and/or unethical as lawyers have a fiduciary duty to represent their client's best interest.

https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/fiduciary-duty

A lawyer owes a fiduciary duty to a client. The lawyer must at all times act in the best interest of the client and must make full disclosure of any economic or other interest that the lawyer has that might conflict with the interest of the client. The lawyer is obligated to take all actions and give all advice that will benefit the client and to use professional skill and energy to protect the client’s interests. Should a conflict of interest arise (for example, the lawyer discovers that one client wishes to hire him to sue another one of his clients) the lawyer must immediately make full disclosure of such conflict and take steps to immediately end the conflict regardless of the personal cost to the lawyer.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 6 points 9 months ago

Good thing I'm not a lawyer.

[–] Rivalarrival 4 points 9 months ago

The client gets to decide the client's best interest. If he wants to take the stand, blocking him from doing so would be a violation of fiduciary duty.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I'm waiting for the court appointed attorneys to show up. at least for the criminal trials.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I mean… feels like that’s 100% on Trump for having selected her as his attorney in the first place? To be fair, his selection criteria for her was probably along the lines of “she got a law degree and she’s hot and I think I could convince her to let me fuck her” because Habba does loosely resemble a younger Melania

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

she’s hot and I think I could convince her to let me fuck her> >

Yeah... getting approval for sex isn't exactly his m.o. Fucking women without permission is how dip shit got to this trial in the first place.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I mean I get what you’re saying… but as much of an imbecile as he is, I really don’t think he’s dumb enough to rape (or even attempt to rape) his own civil defense lawyer in a case about financial damages he owes a plaintiff that he raped, lost a case against, which effectively legally established that he raped her, and then continued to slander about said rape and case. Like… there has to be a limit.

[–] Plasma@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Like… there has to be a limit.

And yet the limit keeps on getting pushed...

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Everytime I think that idiot can't possibly be that stupid or do something that shitty, he takes it to another level. There is no floor on this thing.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn’t be surprised if they were fucking.

And then she realized she was never getting paid and stopped.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Wouldn’t be surprised if they were fucking.

Ew. That’s in my head now! EWWW!

[–] Rivalarrival 4 points 9 months ago

She looks a lot like a brunette Ivanka...

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[–] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I don't want to think about that, despite which I now can't help but wonder if she's more competent in the bedroom than she is in the courtroom.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's so weird how Trump seems to constantly surround himself with losers... it's almost like, I don't know, maybe Trump himself is a loser?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 months ago

It’s so weird how Trump seems to constantly surround himself with losers…

And criminals. Lots and lots of criminals.

[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Ends up you can fake being smart, but you can't fake competence.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago

Now she can try faking being employable.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

hah! I've been faking competence for longer than I'm able to admit!

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Has he ever considered not committing crimes?

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago
[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Losers blame anyone else but themselves.

(Not that she's competent or anything, of course, but still.)

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's so funny how he just immediately turns on people when he fires them. Like oh, your lawyer was terrible at her job, your attorney General, your vice president, your Secretary of State, your Secretary of Defense...maybe whoever picks these people is really bad at his job?

Like obviously he's lying for political expedience, but best case scenario if we believed him entirely, he's terrible at HIS job of picking the best people to run things for him.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 13 points 9 months ago

Why would trump hire a loser that doesn't know what she's doing?

Could it be that trump is also a loser who doesn't know what he is doing? Is it camaraderie?

[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Alina Habba has what she wants: a gravy train on the MAGA circuit. To do this, she needed to be a clown, not an attorney.

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah, only a total dipshit would hire her.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

turnip is always looking for his next scapegoat. How anyone ever agrees to do business with him is beyond me, the pattern is well established, you won’t walk away unscathed..

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

When you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She didn't agree to suck his shriveled mandarin slice, so he's firing her.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don't know that she didn't

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I try to keep an moderately optimistic view of humanity. Sure, we are bombing hospitals and shooting grandmothers, but sucking Trumps dick? I just hope we haven't gone that far.

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[–] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Well, for once he's not wrong. She certainly proved herself to be an incompetent loser of a lawyer. Even I knew you don't show up in a federal court room without already having memorized the rules for basic shit like introducing evidence.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Well, all that is true...

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

They say that about anyone who works for Trump.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

I'm surprised. Losers usually stick together.

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