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I'm leaning Roz since Cuba is the one AES state its kinda socially acceptable for westoids to have a kinda positive opinion of.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Update: the guest says "soviet imperialism" around 2:15.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

The Soviet Union enforced a system of economic dependency by buying Cuban sugar above market value.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

going with Alice on an off day. 90% okay opinions but there's like two moments that make you go jesse-wtf

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It seems to me like Cuba became more acceptable to western / NATO leftists when it became more common knowledge how ahead-of-the-curve they are on LGBT stuff. I have no evidence, just anecdotally, I noticed a shift around the time Cuba passed that big bill that codified tons of rights.

Like "oh I finally learned one whole thing about Cuba, they did a democracy to be nice to the LGBT-types that I sexually harass on social media DMs, they're good now." Which ... alright, fuck it. I'll take it. shrug-outta-hecks

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

One more reason why accepting LGBT people is good for communist countries (besides, you know, all of the other reasons)

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Listening now, I'm thinking it's Rocz rocz-yes

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I have no respect for the Polish language. Take that shit back to Cyzecskizeycskizacskzichiski or whatever weird ass village you're from.

[–] replaceable@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Like an angloid has a leg to stand on

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Rocz also has little respect for the Polish people

[–] replaceable@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] replaceable@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thats self-depreciation, from an angloid it smells of chauvinism

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

I'm just joshing I'm actually dating a Pole

Their language is fucking incomprehensible tho

[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Westnorthsideeastington

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

What if scrabble was a last name

Polish people: hold my phone

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Does WTYP have a reputation for lib shit? I was binging them a while ago and my impression was basically "pretty good politically, probably could be better but I'm not complaining"

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I went through a phase where I listened to a ton of it and encountered nothing concerning and was enjoying it quite a bit, then there were a couple where Liam and Alice said some stupid radlib nonsense and I guess went completely feral when they got a little pushback.

Then they brought on Adam Something, a "former Nazi" to shit all over the Soviet Union and other eastern bloc countries and whined continuously about tankies. I told myself "I listen to other podcasts whose hosts aren't actual communists, I can just skip to other episodes" but found that all the episodes after that had one moment or another of Liam and Alice whining about soviet-playful

[–] davel@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

I followed Adam Something until the Ukraine war started, and then found out he’s completely bonkers. He’s made at least two videos on how a nuclear retaliation against Russia might be good, actually.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Azov ϟϟomething

I am once again asking the left to stop chasing after fascists and putting their efforts into converting fascists but instead to put their efforts into closely vetting the people who they allow to become leaders.

We've really gotta stop glamourising ex-fascists and start viewing them with a deeply critical lens.

Either they're just a flip-flopper/grifter like Faraday Speaks ("So I watched some YouTube videos from reactionaries and I decided I was also a reactionary, then I watched some videos from leftists and I decided that I'm now a leftist, since then I have decided that I'm some sort of centrist [I think? Idk]... Love me, love me love me - I'm the ideological equivalent of a windvane") or they are an actual fascist but it takes a very long time to undo fascist programming.

I'm happy to give golf claps to converts who get paraded around as proof that people can change etc. but there's a reason why the black community doesn't immediately stick the ex-Klansmen who had a change of heart a fortnight ago into a position of leadership; the left needs to be warm and welcoming to people who are new but there's a massive difference between extending hospitality and appointing people to positions of leadership and throwing tons of cash their way.

Edit: Look at this shit. Aside from the fact that it's a stale af, Facebook boomer tier soapboxing image dressed up as a meme... are we to assume that Adam Shitthing is intending to argue that trans people are degen*rates?

Because that's the established discourse internal to this meme.

It's hard to imagine that someone as online as he is failing to grasp what this meme implies. Wtf is going on there??

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I'm all for converting Fascists and they have a role in preventing people from becoming fash. But You Do Not Let Them Become Cadre. Or propagandists outside a narrow sphere of anti fascism. They're simply not politically reliable.

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, I've been enjoying listening to them from the start. What do I do now!!!

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Listen until it gets bad, learning about some of those disasters is pretty interesting.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

Well, damn.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't check out there episode on Romania with their guest Azov Something.

Also Liam once cited the fictional movie Enemy at the Gate as a source for what happened at Stalingrad.

In general Liam fucking sucks.

[–] Meh@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Liam is a classic incurious guy who definitely has opinions and believes you need to hear them.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

In other words, deeply unserious....

[–] solitaire@infosec.pub 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Liam is proudly anti-communist, American and anti-intellectual. Alice can have some pretty bad takes but it's overall fine, the real issue is she folds really quickly to the peer pressure when Liam starts getting aggressive while Rocz just wants to talk about trains. So the general dynamic is Alice will say something vaguely communist then Liam will start yelling insane half remembered black book shit at her until she goes "I guess that's true..." to get him to stop. There will be an awkward pause then Rocz will resume talking about trains.

I never thought I'd miss the mansplaining discourse circa 2010 but here I am, desperate for the unearned confidence of a wildly below average man yelling over a woman until she submits to be called out.

I really do hate the guy. He loves to brag about just being the most selfish piece of shit and putting other people's lives at risk. He revels in the fact that he refuses to learn anything - not just politically, but on any topic they cover that's not like beer and sports. This would be too on the nose as a caricature making fun of the average American.

Then all he does is complain about having an extremely cushy, absurdly well paid job and how he doesn't want to do it. Just quit already you pig.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

This would be too on the nose as a caricature making fun of the average American.

I still can't believe they kept him on after the episode where he proudly spends the entire time watching sports and loudly commenting on it

Literally fire him and either have Devon step in full time or hire Gareth Dennis as third seat

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

At least we get periodic dunkings on him from his trot dad when he says something particularly egregious.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

Liam is the fucking worst and ruins the whole thing. Alice sometimes sucks and is best left talking about bond movies. Rocz is the only worthwhile host.

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

I’m about a hour in and I haven’t thrown my phone at the TV.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

I simply avoid any historical and political episodes so that I can keep enjoying the show