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submitted 4 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Christian nationalist North Carolina Republican Lt. Governor Mark Robinson, currently the leading candidate for the GOP nomination for governor, launched an attack on transgender women years after the Tar Heel State's last GOP governor cost the state millions – and possibly billions – of dollars, and cost him his political career over the very same issue.

“We're going to defend women in this state,” vowed Robinson, according to WUNC, at a campaign stop earlier this month. “That means if you're a man on Friday night, and all the sudden on Saturday, you feel like a woman, and you want to go in the women's bathroom in the mall, you will be arrested — or whatever we got to do to you.”

"In campaign speeches in recent weeks," WUNC added, "Robinson suggested that people who previously identified as male should be 'arrested' if they go in a women’s bathroom. Instead, he suggests they should 'find a corner outside somewhere' to relieve themselves."

In a different campaign speech Robinson said, “if you are confused, find a corner outside somewhere to go. We're not tearing society down because of this.”

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[-] GoddessOfGouda@lemmy.world 163 points 4 months ago

Wonder how he’d feel about being told the same thing, but because of his skin color.

Some people are quite dense.

[-] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago

Dudes a textbook "pharisee" christian. Just look at the "personal life" portion of his wiki.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago

Robinson attributed the beginning of his interest in American conservative politics to his reading of a book by Rush Limbaugh, after which he "found out that was conservative and always had been."

Anyone who gets their political philosophy from Rush Limbaugh is a dipshit who wants to be lied to or a grifter.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 28 points 4 months ago

The very same Rush Limbaugh who denied smoking causes cancer and who died of lung cancer caused by smoking.

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[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

"I read Rush Limbaugh's book and discovered that I was in fact Uncle Ruckus!"

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[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] moshankey@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

This person, specifically. Been following this twit for some time. I’m sure his mother loves him. I guess.

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

The sad thing is that his right to use the bathroom is protected.

However, there is absolutely nothing saying we can't accuse him of being a transwoman and denying him the bathroom.

Because tHaT's FrEe SpEaCh

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[-] kvasir476@lemmy.world 91 points 4 months ago

So "not tearing society down" means piss or shit on the street instead of in a toilet? Am I understanding correctly?

[-] ButtCheekOnAStick@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago

I also love that the thing that's going to finally bring this society to a collapse is unisex bathrooms. You know, the same kind you have in your house.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

The vast majority of toilets in the world are all-access. When you do see segregated restrooms, guess what you'll find inside? Most of the Men's toilets and all of the Women's toilets are inside individually-enclosed rooms with lockable doors.

My philosophy on this issue is that one picture of a restroom door at some establishment that says "Whatever, just wash your hands."

[-] ned@mstdn.ca 15 points 4 months ago

@aeronmelon @ButtCheekOnAStick

Even urinals, if not eliminated completely out of lack of need, can be blocked off from visibility and should be anyways. I don't like urinals where other men can see my junk, and few of those remain anymore for good reason.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I've literally walked out of restrooms with no dividers or space between urinals. I don't need a stranger's piss splashing on me.

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[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 68 points 4 months ago

You... you can't go to a corner and relieve yourself.

Thats a misdemeanor you will likely be arrested and jailed for.

This moron has just told people to do something that is illegal, in addition to being dehumanizing on its face.

How is people pissing and shitting outside /not/ tearing down society, isnt this exactly the kind of thing that is bemoaned as a sign of society collapsing when talking about the homeless or drug addicts?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 31 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure that's the point. It's a double win for them, dehumanize you and get you in trouble for doing the only thing you're "allowed" to do by their standards.

Republicans make me sick to my stomach.

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I personally know many people who think and say and agree with things along Mr. Just Poop Outside's kind of rhetoric.

They are most often not actually aware of the obvious contradictions and logical contradictions of their rhetoric.

Then, when you point it out, they get angry and violent.

The more clever and more demonic ones will be aware of what youre saying and usually lie about it in public but admit to it privately.

But the vast majority of them are too stupid to realize the contradiction in the moment.

Which makes sense, because conservatives brains are statistically more susceptible to fear and rage and othering groups they dont identify with.

Yes, the more evil ones are consciously aware that their rhetoric just is rhetoric fueled by hatred.

But the vast majority actually are the dumb sheep that they call everyone else, easily herded into worldviews by obvious lies and emotional reasoning overtaking their logical faculties.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Instead, he suggests they should ‘find a corner outside somewhere’ to relieve themselves.”

At which point they'll be arrested for public indecency, placed on a sex offenders registry, and likely taken to jail.

A reminder that the trans community was one of the first targets of the Nazis, before they moved on to other targets.

Don't speak out. When they come for you, there will be no one left to speak out for you.

[-] WhoresonWells@lemmy.basedcount.com 57 points 4 months ago

Can we just let gender-neutral toilets be the default so we can all stop worrying this? The fact that the stranger shitting next stall over may or may not have a penis is not a problem. Having to scrape turds off my shoe because someone followed this guy's advise and shat on the sidewalk makes it my problem.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They're NOT worried about it. They're using trans people as a boogieman to scare morons. That's it. They're trying to make idiots worried to create an excuse to do bad things, not worried themselves.

These people are EVIL in every sense of the word, and I'm not religious. They are despicable people that want to do bad things to those they don't like, and they're creating room to do those bad things.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

maaaan i honestly kinda hope they can just over themselves. as someone who has cleaned toilets, i kinda don't want gender neutral toilets. i don't want them all to be as disgusting and horrible as women's bathrooms. most men don't know how good they have it with the currently segregated bathrooms...

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[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago

That means if you're a man on Friday night, and all the sudden on Saturday, you feel like a woman, and you want to go in the women's bathroom in the mall, you will be arrested

Or if you're a man one year and you take hormones and get surgery and dress like a woman for the following 10 years they'll still arrest you for going in the women's bathroom.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

These dumbass comments should show everyone that these politicians don't even try to understand the situation. They are reactionary, emotional, and bigoted; they act in service of their bigotry and don't care who they hurt.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He's not even being reactionary or emotional. It's way more cynical than that. He's simply trying to score political points to morons who are bigoted, reactionary, emotional, and don't try to understand the situation.

Edit: I could be wrong, he may really just be a simple bigot

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] ech@lemm.ee 37 points 4 months ago

His porch is outside. Just saying.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 21 points 4 months ago

So are a lot of Confederate graves

[-] SkyeCat@kbin.social 34 points 4 months ago

As a trans North Carolinian, I die inside a little bit every time this bigoted shit-heel opens his mouth 🙃

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 33 points 4 months ago

“That means if you're a man on Friday night, and all the sudden on Saturday, you feel like a woman, and you want to go in the women's bathroom in the mall, you will be arrested — or whatever we got to do to you.”

Time to trot out this rotting strawman, again? The fact that he can bring this up after this stupid idea has been thoroughly debunked means he's either ignorant or just hoping nobody notices. It's a loser issue, dude.

What's chilling is the "or whatever we got to do to you." Like what? Public beatings? Lynching? The same shit that was allowed to be done to your ancestors during the time when segregation was legal?

I hope you lose your job and a lot of money, asshole.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

He probably means police trying to make the arrest deliberately escalating the situation to violence, so they have an excuse to murder the suspect in a hail of gunfire. Standard procedure stuff.

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Pfft, "standard procedure". Name one time in the last twenty years the police even waited for an excuse to start shooting.

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[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

That particular bit gave me pause as well. Ah yes, lynch mobs! According to conservatives, one of the proudest points in American history!

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

Ummmm you told a section of society to go pee in a corner, and in the same breath talk about not tearing society down. I’m pretty sure people not pissing in a sanitary washroom is the start of the collapse of a civilization. Plenty of better ways to solve this fictitious problem you have created to scare your base with, than villainizing an entire subset of humans.

$20 says there are pictures of this guy in drag in college.

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[-] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 months ago

The real story here is that North Carolina Lt. Governor Mark Robinson is pro-public urination. Never realized that was an official GOP platform.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Ted Cruz is in favor, but that's just because he likes the warm feeling between his legs.

[-] elrik@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We're not tearing society down because of this.

Apparently where we all pee is a foundational aspect of society?

Edit: To clarify, I'm not suggesting we should all go shit in the streets or that public restrooms should not exist. Rather, it's absurd to suggest that picking a restroom, one that someone else doesn't agree with, will lead to the destruction of society.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Try going out for a weekend and not using a bathroom outside your house. If you enter a bathroom, imagine every person staring at you in curiosity or disgust. Imagine getting hastled and yelled at or assaulted for being in the "correct" washroom because you have a beard but have XX chromasomes. Imagine the cops being called on you. Better hurry and do your business fast and flee the scene because if they catch you they might arrest you, fine you or force you to "prove" your genetalia match what's on your driver's licence or ask tone deaf invasive questions about your medical history. If they are bigots they might call you slurs or just arrest you anyway to try and run you out of the community.

Spend a month never using a public restroom. Watch as your world shrinks to being basically just your house as any legthy trip outside requires precise timing so you won't need to take a shit somewhere risky or perhaps enlist a a friend instead to serve as chaperone and defence to help keep you safe.

How and where we dispose of our waste is actually quite foundational to society. It shapes the layout of our cities, the spaces where we go, our life expectancies and how we spend our time.

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[-] snownyte@kbin.social 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Again, the problem is in plain sight - CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST.

Only a CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST would say and push for this shit.

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 4 months ago

The easiest way to deal with this complete dumbfuckery is to abolish gendered bathrooms and add full wall to ceiling stalls with locked doors.

Please shut the fuck up about this there are real problems to deal with

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[-] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

For the people who are concerned about pervs taking advantage of it (which is the only trans-bathroom opposition stance I even REMOTELY understand) a better way to solve the problem would be changing our public restrooms from the equivalent of pasting 3 sticky notes over a porn mag. Like seriously the only reason anyone is okay with door gaps I can fit my fuckin hand through is because they seem to forget that perverts can be gay, too.

Mandate floor-to-ceiling walls and doors that actually FIT and LOCK RELIABLY and I'm sure far fewer people would care (except for the whackjobs, obviously)

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

Arent most bathroom stalls like that outside the US? The only reason ours are like that if memory serves me right is because of inherited designs from the 1800s.

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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 19 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure peeing outside is illegal.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Gee, I wonder what he was implying with that "arrest you...or whatever we got to do to you"

Instead, go piss outside... which is also a crime that will allow the cops to arrest you... you know, or whatever they have to do.

Edited because I misquoted the guy using proper grammer and syntax. I'd hate for anyone to mistake him for being educated or intelligent.

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[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

I feel like any time a bigot feels so strongly about something like this it's projection. I would bet money this dude has some big skeletons in his closet, and it's usually only so long before it comes out. Also, people who think that laws are what stop people freak me out. Like... You are afraid that men are going to go into bathrooms and creep on women and the only thing that stops them is laws? I don't do it because I'm not a fuckin creep. Like this guys is telling me that if there were not laws against it, that's what he would be doing? That's what I'm hearing.

[-] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This non-issue is still getting brought up?

Republicans have nothing to show for how they intend to make the country better because all of their policies are harmful and unpopular, so they can only hope that fearmongering about trans people will convince enough bigots to vote for them.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I continue to maintain that the qons are nothing but a collection of creepy weirdos and freaks. What normal person gives all this thought to where trans people relieve themselves?

I bet most of this is right wing projection. Meaning, the freaks and the weirdos that constantly harp on this would looooove to be able to go into the women's bathroom and are seething over the fact that they believe the trans (women) found some kind of loophole.

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

People should start peeing on his campaign headquarters every Saturday night. He said it was OK, after all.

[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I often ask myself. Why are republicans so threatened by drag or transsexuals and then I remember that according to pornhub stats Republican states consume the most transexual pornography. I guess the moral of the story is that if you identify as a Republican it’s because you are attracted to transexual men and women. Congrats republicans, I just gave you some physiological advice free of charge. Now get out there and put on some thigh high socks GOP. You’ll feel a lot better, I promise.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago

he suggests they should ‘find a corner outside somewhere’ to relieve themselves.

So public urination is fine in North Carolina? Good to know.

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Then piss and shit on him in public. That's outside, right?

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