this post was submitted on 01 Sep 2023
649 points (97.9% liked)

News

23409 readers
3301 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Some of Donald Trump’s co-defendants in the sprawling election subversion case in Georgia are trying all sorts of ways to fund their mounting legal bills – yet the costs of the 2020 election fallout may quickly exceed their abilities to pay.

At least four have turned to crowdfunding online, raising hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for defense lawyers. One now has a political action committee to help with legal fees. Another has an ally in Congress vowing to support his legal defense. While another ended up spending nearly a week in jail because he initially couldn’t afford to hire an attorney.

Trump has covered the legal bills of aides, advisers and employees during the House select committee’s probe into January 6, 2021, and federal investigations, including his two co-defendants in the classified documents case, Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira, both of whom work for the former president.

But there is no sign yet that Trump intends to do so for any of his co-defendants in the Georgia case, which alleges that he and others engaged in a criminal conspiracy to subvert the state’s 2020 election results. In fact, Trump has publicly distanced himself from them, telling Newsmax he doesn’t know “a lot of these people.”

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 142 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's never going to pay to help any of these people because he believes they are supposed to go to jail for him. He believes that's part of the "plan" that only exists in his head.

He has even expressed the opinion on record that he thinks any loyal Republican should always take jail time to protect him and never speak against him. He really does think he's a mafia boss

[–] gameboyhomeboy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's amazing how far narcissism can go when left unchecked.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean the dude lived in a giant gold tower with his name written across it before he was made one of the most powerful people in the world.

And he's a teetotaler. I can't even imagine what would have happened if he'd gotten into cocaine or something.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

I can’t even imagine what would have happened if he’d gotten into cocaine or something.

"Say hello to my little friend" would have a whole new meaning when he's talking about his dick.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's baffling how many faces a single leopard can eat.

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Probably should have started with a small leopard rather than choosing to back an obese leopard with a looong track record of chawing on people's countenances.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Trump’s sons, Eric and Don Jr, have helped with the fundraising around the legal defense fund created in July, which is intended to support legal costs of Trump’s associates and has begun to see financial pledges, the source said."

Everything should be fine, the people who steal from charities are in top of it

[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Come on now, it was sick children. Who even cares about kids?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's because Trump's defense will be throwing you morons under the bus.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I'd assume he paid for the legal fees of those staffers because they were either still useful to him, or they had something on him. In other words, he paid because he thought he'd get something out of it.

These other random people have served their purpose to him and haven't got anything more useful to extract, or at least nothing worth more than the legal fees, so they can quite literally go hang as far as Trump's concerned.

I'm not quite sure why some people are still surprised that Trump operates like this, but like you said they're morons so that probably covers most of it lol

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

He doesn't pay his own lawyers, why would he pay someone else's?

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well it's time these idiots flipped on him.

[–] Boddhisatva@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Probably too late. If the DA doesn't need anything they have, they are not going to offer them anything to flip. IANAL, but as I understand it, it's generally just the first one to flip that gets a deal. Everyone else is fucked unless they know something that the first guy to flip didn't.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is shouting "I ANAL" really the best way to tell people that you're not a lawyer? Lol

[–] Dee@lemmings.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For me, it's about efficiency. Because I am not a lawyer, but I also do anal.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] _errer@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously. How are these people heaping loyalty on someone who gives none back?

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There's a name for them "flying monkeys"

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Dagrothus@reddthat.com 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"While another ended up spending nearly a week in jail because he initially couldn’t afford to hire an attorney."

Regardless of context, this sentence is so dystopian and fucked up.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] markr@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cop a plea. Legal fees will come to an abrupt halt.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fact, Trump has publicly distanced himself from them, telling Newsmax he doesn’t know “a lot of these people.”

Wow, that is one hell of a breakup line.

Nothing quite like finding out you were the one night affair. After you just helped him bury the body.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I still can't wrap my head around why these people are willing to commit multiple felonies for Donald Trump, of all people.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They thought he'd be king and would then make them lords LOL. Was never going to happen whether Trump managed to steal the election or not.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump had to go to the bail bondsman just like the rest of them did. What does that say about Trump's ability to pay for other's legal fees? If he can't front the cash for bail directly himself, what makes these clowns think they are special?

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Trump has a reputation to uphold (that he doesn't pay what he owes)

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Anyone who genuinely believed that Trump was going to pay their bills could probably use that as a good starting point for building an insanity defense.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's probably not even paying his own lawyers, so...

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] efrique@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

face, meet leopard

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LPT: if you don't commit crimes, you don't have to worry about paying legal fees!

[–] bladerunnerspider@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well you have to worry about it less, at least

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only have anecdotal evidence to rely on, but I personally know several people who didn't try to overthrow our government and as a result, are not drowning in legal fees due to multiple federal and state indictments.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Aka “Stop breaking the law, asshole!”

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Jesus.

Most of these people that went along with Trump are actually marginally intelligent... and yet they trusted him to pay his bills.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago

They didn't just trust him to pay his bills, they trusted them to pay their bills. How gullible can you be?

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Introversion@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] valen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Looks like a cello. The violin would have a chin-rest near the bridge and thus tucks under the chin.

But this is gold.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

i really can't believe that big, brave Donald isn't in there doing everything he can for other people.. that's just not like a big, brave boy.. a big, brave boy should be standing up for his friends.. i thought a big, brave boy like Donald would protect his friends..

maybe he's just a scared, crying little pussy, and so are all of his supporters

[–] REdOG@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't get rich helping others.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of trumps net worth came from his father’s wealth and the natural apretiation that happens over time.

This is despite his frequently shitty business decisions.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's a pretty good argument that since 2016 most of his wealth has come from fundraising and PACs.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Can you overdose on schadenfreude?

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reminds me of that arc in Breaking Bad where they had to keep making money to pay off people in jail to keep them from flipping and trying for a plea. I forget how it ended though.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Am I supposed to feel some sort of empathy here?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surprised Pikachu ate their faces.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] greavous@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Shock. Man who doesn't pay his own lawyers lied about paying for other people's lawyers.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

lol, no shit

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The conned meet the con man.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ha, are these the only people who didnt see this coming? trump has never paid his bills, hes certainly not paying anyone elses

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›