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They might be rich. Lotta int. students, especially in undergrad come from wealth. If so, there ain’t no way you gonna change her mind on China lol.
With the prices of flights to China, she MUST be ABSURDLY rich.
There are plenty of liberals from the PRC, especially from the big liberal cities such as Shanghai. There are still a whole bunch of NED funded media/social media accounts in the mainland in general.
In my experience meeting such classmates they're not that different from some of the HK/TW international students as they all tow the same line.
I have met a few that are not liberal, however my thought here is always, why would they chose to come here, Some for the international understanding, but moat will chose a place with an ideology they think will align with them
One of the main reasons might be the fact that some of the highest ranked universities are located in the US, UK, Australia etc.
Competition is quite intense in the mainland and usually a degree from a university from these countries will add some prestige to their resumes (sometimes we refer to those as 'plating it in gold').
I wouldnt worry, these chinese ameriboos pose no threat to china really since the material reality speaks for itself. Look at how joshua wong ended even with complete backing of the West lmao.
But like maybe confront her propaganda?
lol no, don't be a snitch. Nobody likes a snitch.
Why is this ignorance upvoted?
Shame on this liberalism. Shame on your cowardice, your weak will.
1 month old account and already spreading nonsense.
Are we that full of anarcho-liberals who think good things and bad things are exactly the same, all cops are bastards and government and authority are bad that we just accept "snitching" is bad?
No. Reporting counter-revolutionaries and liberals is good when done to socialist authorities.
Do you think a revolution will succeed or endure in the face of external attempts at overthrow, pressure, etc without snitching? Without reporting liberalism? Counter-revolutionaries? Traitors? etc. Of course not.
Why then do you hate China? Why do you hate an in-power communist party? Why then do you take the position that there is harm to socialism, to communist parties, to the global proletariat from reporting backwards, anti-social, improper, and treasonous behaviors? Should people not be held to account?
Do you think counter-revolution springs out of thin air? How do you think the events of June 4th occurred? Did they materialize out of nowhere? Or was there a build-up of exactly this kind of person, this kind of thinking, forming networks, organizing, etc. How do you think terrorism and CIA spy rings operate but through people like this, their friends, their acquaintances, family they pressure or trick into revealing info. Every little piece of information is helpful for understanding the whole, the puzzle. For building leads, understanding relationships, uncovering persons of interests.
Do you seriously think that a western citizen who reports an overseas Chinese citizen to the PRC will help China? It will draw unnecessary attention because it will make it look like China is somehow "recruiting spies" in the US. This girl is probably just some rich kid who loves the west. Have you never seen them before? Have you even left your room and interacted with the outside world? There are plenty of people from China abroad that criticize the shit out of the government. The Chinese government doesn't give a shit about small fries like them cuz they're powerless to actually effect any change. Are you even thinking dialectically? Or do you think you'll get some reward from the Chinese gov't for doing such a thing? WTF are you on about??
A lot of expats will try incredibly hard to prove that they are "one of the good ones" to try and fit in with the racist white people in their new country, by constantly badmouthing their home country and talking about how "superior" white culture is. They get empty, shallow relationships with people where they spend their entire time licking boot and either being mocked or fetishised.
(EDIT: this person is NOT from Taiwan), so they probably don't even know that they're spreading misinformation, they probably think they're being genuine. Not sure there's anything you can do about this though. Sure, they'll spread misinformation, but it's only stuff the gullible racist white folks around her already belief (or want to believe). You confronting her or trying to disprove her claims will be ignored, because she's Chinese and you aren't, therefore she knows more in every circumstance automatically, as long as she agrees with the western status quo of course.
Just...try not to be bothered by it. Maybe speak to her in private, try to understand why she says the things she does, try to understand her as a person, maybe even make friends with her, she might not be as horrible as you initially think. You're not going to change any minds trying to "debunk" everything she says, and you're only going to make enemies that way. You need to be friendly and sincere, you don't need to hide your opinions, but you don't need to shove them in people's faces either. People aren't going to change their mind just because they were "proven wrong." People just double down on bad ideas if they're challenged on them like that. It needs to be a slow, steady, educational process, teaching people how to understand sources and judge claims and challenge their preconceived notions.
I wouldn't. If she really is that prominent and dangerous within China, the MSS likely already knows about her. If she isn't, you're just wasting their time. (And possibly, if the story breaks in the liberal media, creating a martyr).
Plus, you're gonna have it on your record that you were in contact with a foreign security service. Don't think that won't come back to bite you later on -- the US government has sent communists to jail for less.
Maybe I'm a liberal by saying this but I pray this is a troll post
I doubt anything will come of it, but if you ask me? Report her. Every little action matters, and just remember- these libs will almost certainly do the same if the opportunity arose.
Do it
Is this a joke post or are you seriously trying to snitch?
From the way you describe her, they already know.
Ok judging from reading the entire spectrum of replies to this, I would advise not reporting this person. I've had convos with tons of naive young chinese people who are basically obsessed with consumer culture. They can be irritating yes but it's probably not worth your time, and then the finger would be immediately pointed at you. And just basic morality... lol. unless you have hard evidence they are doing serious crimes, not worth your time.
You should try to change her mind first and show her evidence of how much the CPC has improved the country compared to what they had before 1949 or contemporary countries like India.
That's an approach for foreign-born Chinese.
For students born and raised in China and studying abroad, it's a different matter. They have a very clear, first-hand experience of conditions in the West, conditions in China, and how the Western media portrays China. Unless OP has spent as much time in China as they have in the US, telling them about the reality of the difference isn't going to wash well with them. Yet another case of Westerners telling Chinese how to act, even if the politics are reversed.
I don't think it really matters since I see her type get clowned on constantly on Chinese sites, but if you feel like she's really up to something it might be a good idea.
You probably should report them to the MI6, CIA, NSA, IRA, YMCA and all other organizations just to make sure. In fact, just start screaming at people in the street about this one random college/highschool girl or else communism as a whole will just collapse.
Watch out China, fucking Hannah from Wisconsin junior college repeated something every white person already says.
See, shit like this is why I'm worried for the future of socialist project in China, despite what folks here say
Many times liberals and their media/social media within the PRC flare up each time a democrat is elected in the US as they are given funding to spout and spread their bullshit (a term we usually refer to as 'dog food').
To be honest the environment was much worse a decade or more ago. Imagine being denounced as a pinko by Chinese liberals inside the PRC in the 2010s and prior just for saying a single positive thing about their own country lol.
Talked to a few of them recently and hearing their fear of the next generation being so "deeply red" was interesting, because they were hoping that everyone would become even more liberal and end up like Japan, full of pretty anime and pop culture while being subservient to the West.