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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

Y'all tired of these Unjust Depths postings yet? 9.3 discussion.Not much to say about 9.3, kind of a slight chapter. I adore how Khajida feels equally:

  • Deeply disappointed/anticlimaxed that her rival, the Red Baron, is just a pathetic, sad, lacking, exhausted dumb bitch who sucks, and won't give her the satisfying victory of killing her

  • Gutted to see that Sieglinde is very much like her: middle aged and feeling the passage of time, slowing down, borderline sympathetic, and totally understandable

  • Hateful that Sieglinde is sad and self-pitying and feeling remorse after causing so much suffering and fighting for horrendous causes, killing her comrades

It's such a complicated tangle of emotions, it's kind of a huge mess after that lifelong rivarly. Hearing Khajida silently goad Sieglinde to do something about what a heartless, evil person she's been, it's great. But also though HOW DARE U KHAJIDA 42 YEARS IS NOT "OLD" >:|

The interrogations with Marina and Arbitrator are all absolutely hilarious though. When Ulyana asks why Marina wasn't honest about Elena being royalty, she yaps:

"You're fucking communists! one of your things is 'eat the rich' isn't it?"

how-compelling You see Marina, The Romanovs Deserved it, we have a brick wall and some rifles down in the brig,

I was less pleased when Ulyana asked about uh, Elena's parentage. ULYANA!!! DO NOT FUCKING REFER TO HER AS A "FATHER" lea-tired I am so pleased that Aaliyah glares at her for this, good stuff. Beloved commissar.

Afterword we get Zachikova and Arbitrator I at the desk, and when Arbitrator describes the bomb collar Zachikova put on her as "a form of play", and declares her intent to breed with Zachikova, I lost it. Zachikova is furious and deeply flustered throughout the whole thing, so Arbitrator will call her "master" and Zachikova will threaten to blow her fucking head off, and then Aaliyah goes "This is an interrogation not some raunchy kink thread on a BBS!" I love her, ngl.

I am glad that Ulyana is asking the same what-are-her-motives questions I am about Arbitrator tho, and fwiw it does seem like Abritrator is just kinda vibing, like she probably actually just wants to kiss Zachikova a bunch?

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[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone have any experience to share about weight loss or weight redistribution when going on transfem HRT?

gonna word vomit here maybe, cw for weight talk/eating issuesSo for context I'm like, almost double a typical/"healthy" weight for my height. I've never had a lot of luck losing weight, despite some desire to, as being this big I'm starting to verge on things like not being able to buy shirts in regular stores that fit, wouldn't be surprised if I had prediabetes, it's getting harder to care for myself and wash myself and do some physical activities I like to do, etc. and I absolutely use food as a coping mechanism for like, poor emotional regulation and shit idk

I guess my questions are mainly twofold... How does HRT interact with weight, like is it more dangerous at a higher bmi/worse diet, and should I try to lose weight before getting on it or after or does it not matter for the physical outcomes? And secondly, does getting on HRT make it mentally easier to wean off of such bad coping mechanisms? It seems like it might. Having a goal for my body and maybe hating myself less might make it easier to lose some weight/work on a healthier relationship with food successfully.

I'm also curious about transfem/more androgynous enbys' experiences with HRT but maybe that'll be another post. Maybe I'm just lazy but I feel like I might want to keep some more masc aspects of my appearance/grooming. Maybe I just have to try it and see. idk. Just had to post something to get this off my suddenly very anxious brain

[–] jwsmrz@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

re: weight HRT will slow your metabolism and you'll probably eat less to fuel your body, but this also means if you binge eat as a coping mechanism at a similar level on HRT it's likely you'll gain weight

To my knowledge feminizing hormone therapy does not have a difference in risk factors depending on weight. I also found that I was happier on HRT, which meant less pointless eating and drinking, so I kinda just lost weight by accident

I posted a long ~1.5 year retrospective about my experiences with HRT here a while back, I think I deleted it due to retroactively feeling uncomfortable with that much personal information being out in the open; but i'd be happy to DM that to ya, I think I saved it on my computer.

My attitude toward HRT when I started was "fuck around and find out, if I dont feel better in a month or two I'll stop" and found it was great for me mentally before I even noticed many physical changes happening. I guess I feel similarly to you in that besides my facial hair I don't mind my masculine characteristics so I generally am read as a butch lesbian, or a suspiciously pretty man at 2.5 years into HRT

tl;dr the craziest side effect from HRT is now when i look in the mirror i'm like "hell yeah"

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[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Me waiting for the next trans mega

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

Massive, nearly play-by-play analysis of Unjust Depths 9.5 - click for autistic transgender homosexuality!!9.5: MAJIDA MENTIONED!!!!! Twice even! But this is The Relationships Chapter, for everybody.

Shalikova continues to be adorable in her nervous affection for Cuttlefish Lady. "Purple marshmallow"!!!!

It's a cool scene when she walks in to Maryam travelling in the aether, it really feels like her understanding of Maryam has increased considerably.

Whatever it was that she was doing, Shalikova wanted to support her.

I love Sonya Shalikova so much. She could overtake Murati in my favourites. This scene is fucking adorable ugh I could keysmash about it. Nowt but love in my heart for them, the way Madiha writes their awkward new love makes me feel. Oh my god they're so cute help????? Like their bit is that Maryam is the overly enthusiastic sunshiney one and Shalikova is the overly serious stiff and awkward one, but they're so cute at eachother that the dynamic feels perfectly balanced between them.

I'm your idiot now, Maryam.

Shalikova's narration of psionics also feels deeply textural in a way that says "the tism!" very loudly to me. Feels like more of a sensory thing for her, which is rad. Her stream of consciousness is full of flavour like that. I also like that Maryam observes that she feels "dominant and strong, like a Warlord", that's 'strong personality' right? My read is that Sonya's neurotype informs her entire experience of love and affection, and I adore that. There are dedicated romance novels with autistic leads that don't hit the mark as precisely as this.

HAHA, oh man de la Rosa talking about how she always strikes gold with freely available independent fiction, it might seem self-congratulatory if it weren't 100% true. I think I've said what she narrates about it 100% verbatim before.

de la Rosa feels like a self insert for my stupid ass, like Hello ma'am I am also hopelessly obsessed with gay women in my books. I am being reached out to by the author. I really like this, her little summary of Blind Princess and the Kind Retainer reads sort of like what I'm writing right now... There are multiple levels of meta at play, lol.

"Why- why are you freaking out so much. We're both girls, you can stop hiding."

Even Alex realised immediately what a stupid thing to say that was.

Lol, lmao! It's fun to see Handsome Gamer Genivov being nervous and awkward when she's usually so boisterous and loud. I like how when reading Unjust Depths, it pays not to judge a gay by their cover - characters will make weird or even bad impressions at first, and then unfurl amazingly, become fascinating and multi-faceted. Video games are reactionary and cringe, but it's nice to see de la Rosa tolerate Genivov's hobby :)

Handily contrasting how Shalikova sees psionics as an absolute win, meanwhile, Murati is all freaked out about the inequality of being able to read Karuniya's feelings when Karu cannot do the same. Dw Murati it's okay, Karu is a fucking weirdo so it all evens out. At this point "evil ingenuity" is rubbing me really wrongly coming from Karuniya, a fucking weirdo, should not be mischevious. "Hubby" is a straggot term, Karuniya, shut the fuck up.

For what it's worth, it is a decentish scene for the pair of them, and I don't intend to constantly belabour the fact of my boundless disdain for Karuniya. It is at least cool to see Murati show some sexual initiative, I realise now that one of the reasons their relationship can feel so creepy and unbalanced--especially in that 8.13 flashback--is that it's been Karuniya doing almost all of the horny perving, with Murati being mostly passive, which makes her feel weirdly objectified to me. This is at least a slight improvement to the status quo.

The way Zachikova and Arbitrator I are described as cuddling does not, as the narration says, seem out of character for me. It's a very casual, parallel-play type of physical affection, I know it and I like it. Autism. To be honest, Abritrator wrapping her body around Zachikova and sniffing at her hair while she's using a terminal, it reminds me of cuddling my wife sometimes. I adore that Zachikova feels comfortable enough around Madame Fishy, and that this level of comfort is new to her. Affection in general is new to Braya Zachikova, and she seems to have poor emotional regulation about it but isn't distressed by it, which is very cute.

...and then Zachikova says she's all-ready to kill Arbitrator I in a multitude of ways! Countermeasures because she's unfamiliar with cohabiting!! This is weird even to me, but it's funny and befitting of our favourite former spec-ops robotic lady. She is so blunt, they have a curious but deeply pleasant dynamic. This is the best fucking autism rep this side of The Outside by Ada Hoffmann, and the single best chapter of Unjust Depths thus far.

Relatedly, Arbitrator revealing herself to be a sexy(??) yet meek vampire fish is weirdly intimate. I feel weirdly sympathetic to Arbitrator's struggle not to harm humans despite her bloodlust, which is probably me and my murder-gays-affection speaking again. Arbitrator is all fucked up and borderline ashamed about it though, and I think extremely highly of Zachikova for calmly considering Arbitrator's problem without freaking out, she's so good to her fishy gf. I'm uh glad Zachikova can get off to it, there's so much going on in this one scene. Great stuff.

There are some scraps, too:

Ulyana in fact IS on her way to un-fumbling; she and Aaliyah are having more than one shot, in their night clothes, toasting to the proletarian revolution! Progress!! Mostly they talk about the progress of the Brigand's mission and its truly wonderful crew, but I liked Aaliyah drunkenly nuzzling Ulyana's hand, very cute.

ELENA IS READING THEORY NO FUCKING WAY, on her way to becoming a bonafide Mordecist!!! And telling Marina about it!!!!! It's great seeing Marina acknowledge that she hadn't been considering Elena's feelings, and Elena apologising for trying to hurt Marina. They'll get better together, as friends!

Euphrates and Tigris mostly bicker about current events and get a little inspired to resolve the Sunlight Foundation's internal contradictions, thanks to Murati. They are cute together at least, and it's nice to know Tigris took in Euphrates' blood to become immortal.

Haaaaaaaaaaha oh man, Sonya being so awkward asking Murati for advice is noooot stemming my nascent filthy rotten shipping instincts! They WILL kiss!!! Read eachothers', auras, homos, and play coy!!!! Avoid eachothers' clear affections mari-smug

Is it kind of a pacing mishap to have ALL OF THESE relationship updates piled into one chapter? Maybe, but it's a good come-down after Goryk's Gorge, the ascent and all of the interrogations, plus it pulled my heartstrings a bunch of times. I was reading Into the Drowning Deep by Mira Grant (a messy but enjoyable shlock-horror novel) when I theorised: if you add queers, transes, autists, and other identities I have to your genre fiction's protagonists, it will greatly improve my investment in everything else, right up to action sequences. Unjust Depths is the absolute poster child for this though, the quality relationships are the bedrock for everything else, the political maneuvering and mecha action and deep-sea esoterics.

Addendum: In plot movement terms, at the end we finally get Carthus, once again, Erich's pet evil twink. My excitement knows no bounds, his dramatic expressions of being the mercury to Erich's sun, is this what yaoi is usually like? If you keep me on a steady dose of lesbians alongside it, I could get used to this too. Sing to your prince, racist pretty boy~!

I adore what an irredeemable little fuck Carthus is, ooh he's SUCH an evil murder twink. Nice to see that Erich has access to Sunlight's EDEN database too, and his bag is that the Sunlight Foundation basically allowed Emperor Nocht I to erase history and build this shitty empire with all its troubles. He wants to rewrite history and the empire in his own image. A united One World Government, beginning with the destruction of the summer palace. He is playing an EXCEEDINGLY long game.

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

oh god i can feel myself becoming the basic ass trans girl with a praise kink in real time

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Head Full, Many Thought: Unjust Depths 9.1-9.2Sonya Shalikova kissed her cuttlefish lady finally, and it was adorable. I relate strongly to her acting alienated about the ways people date and have sex, very cool. She could do it for Maryam!!!!

Conversely Dear Zachikova, the fish lady with the gore robe emerging from a pile of fleshy briney guts is NOT AT ALL SUS, she is NOT MIND CONTROLLING YOU and you should DEFINITELY FUCK HER lmao. I do like how blunt Zachikova's narration is about her attractions and lack thereof. She is extremely, deeply unconcerned about fucking the newly-formed fish lady. Took a lot of restraint not to fuck her on the floor of the hangar though, I never had Zachikova pegged for "too horny to live, will be subsumed by a sexy sea creature"... uncritical support though, lol. I like Arbitrator I and her aid in the ascent of the Brigand is extremely cool, the whole Omenseers thing fucks really hard.

During that same ascent, Yana finally gets over her hangups with EMOTIONAL SUPPORT CATGIRL AALIYAH, WHO GETS YOU THROUGH SUDDEN ASCENT! Everything from the point Ulyana realises that Arbitrator I is the dancer fish to the point where she calls for damage assessment is rad.

Meanwhile onboard the Antenora, I really did expect Norn to just beat the absolute living shit out of Gertrude, repeatedly, viciously. I woulda critically supported her, even! But the way she sees Emperor Konstantin in Gertrude, how she feels like a failure of a mentor, how she grants forgiveness to her, and the way she considers all of this as she stares at her own clenched fist while time is stopped? Again it's a stellar moment for her. Norn always seems like she's just rampaging around manipulating and murdering motherfuckers to take her bottomless anger out, but there's so much going on with her internally. Her complicated feelings about the Emperor, her shrouded mysterious past with the Sunlight Foundation, her bond with Adelheid. She is an absolutely fucking superb villian. If evil lady bad, why sympathetic and complex and fascinating??? I cannot fathom her motivations and I desperately want to know.

Out of the Loser Gang, Selene sees the most immediate change, having been schooled by some funny gay autist.

Selene was speechless. Not just at the doctor's manic behaviour, but at her own foolishness.

She had pumped a lot of psynadium during her confrontation with that girl-

Sonya Shalikova.

To think she had ti go this far to try to outmatch her and even so-

And as a result Sonya has a rival now, finally!! Selene deserves to feel like a pathetic untermensch or whatever the fuck, what a nerd lol. What credibility did she have?

But aside from ubermensch here getting dunked on, I learned a lot about her inner workings. When Selene asks questions about Who She Is, Why She Was Born, What She Is Meant For, I realise finally that she has fundamentally misunderstood the concept of purpose in life.

She asserts that natal humans are born with innate destinies, in families, states, ethnicities and such. She asserts that even Katarrans have a born purpose, but that she has nothing as a blank-slate person, and asks how to attain a destiny if not born with it. She is so myopically focused on PURPOSE that she cannot envision making her own. A character flaw of sorts. She desperately wants to be told her purpose, and knows not what she would do with herself if given freedom. Norn, who lives in spite of her grand stated purposes, strikes a fascinating contrast.

I'll be real, chat, Unjust Depths is really picking up. Its leads are gaining in complexity and the pacing is tighter than a guitar string. Already good and only keeps getting better.

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[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Break yourself inside out, she told me
We know deep down there's no way
Even if I smash the mirror
How do we look?
Not cute

Oh, lullaby
Don't stop until I fall in flames
Stay with, stay with me until the end of time

So carry on, love the subhuman self
Time goes on, lasting road
I left my regret
So carry on, love the subhuman self
Time goes on, lasting road
I feel a touch of moonlight

is almost as trans as bridget's theme

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

though to be clear bridget's theme is just directly about her coming to terms with being trans

The town inside me
And everyone's voice
Only I'm not there
Just watching from afar I can't go home
Because I'm afraid
Something will change Be without me
I'm the one to blame

I've moved on, by my own will
(I had nothing else I wanted to do)
It wasn't hard, but I didn't hate it
(I did not even like it)

I've been patient, but it was bearable
I've had a gray haze for a long time though (Boom boom)
I never found out, what it was I It's my stress, that's for sure

I never wanted to run away (I was vеry motivated) Then what is, this feeling? (Who would I ask?)

I've been patiеnt, but it was bearable I've had a gray haze for a long time though (Boom boom)
I never found out, what it was I
Tastes like vegetables I don't like

The town inside me
And everyone's voice
Only I'm not there
Just watching from afar
I can't go home
Because I'm afraid
Something will change
Be without me
I'm the one to blame

I'm not waiting
(For Santa Claus)
I already have the gifts just can't open the box (just can't open the box)
I know all about it, no one can stop it
Unless I just had to do something 'bout it
"It's not even a case!"

I've been patient, but it was bearable
I've had a gray haze for a long time though (Boom boom)
I never found out, what it was I
I hate the alarm clock I chose

The town inside me
And everyone's voice
Only I'm not there
Just watching from afar
I can't go home
Because I'm afraid
Something will change
Be without me
I'm the one to blame

I'm out of patience, my body is light
Let's paint the gray haze into sky blue
I know who you are!
I'm not leaving you again!

The town inside me
And everyone's voice
Only I'm not there
Just watching from afar
There is no where to go that- no where to go
It's all just food y'know
Be without me (I'm the one to blame)

The night falls, the place where I belong
No matter what changes, will no longer change me
No matter what- change- no no no won't change me
I can feel the light, even after the sun goes down

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