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[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 223 points 7 months ago (4 children)

MATTHEW 6:5

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

He's a sinner.

[–] Rognaut@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Dude that guy's face just looks like pure evil. If I saw him in a movie, I'd immediately know he was the villain.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know if this really happens, but his face looks like it got that way from scowling and laughing at the same time for the last 50 years.

[–] Rognaut@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So like, resting villain face?

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

One of the most pertinent and most ignored passages in that book

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 115 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Prayer In Tongues On Floor Before Abortion Ruling.

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The science on speaking in tongues:

• People don’t tend to use sounds that aren’t in their native language. (citation) So if you’re an English speaker, you’re not going to bust out some Norwegian vowels. This rather lets the air out of the theory that individuals engaged in glossolalia are actually speaking another language. It is more like playing alphabet soup with the sounds you already know. (Although not always all the sounds you know. My instinct is that glossolalia is made up predominately of the sounds that are the most common in the person’s language.)

• It lacks the structure of language. (citation) So one of the core ideas of linguistics, which has been supported again and again by hundreds of years of inquiry, is that there are systems and patterns underlying language use: sentences are usually constructed of some sort of verb-like thing and some sort of noun-like thing or things, and it’s usually something on the verb that tells you when and it’s usually something on the noun that tells you things like who possessed what. But these patterns don’t appear in glossolalia. Plus, of course, there’s not really any meaningful content being transmitted. (In fact, the “language” being unintelligible to others present is one of the markers that’s often used to identify glossolalia.) It may sort of smell like a duck, but it doesn’t have any feathers, won’t quack and when we tried to put it in water it just sort of dissolved, so we’ve come to conclusion that it is no, in fact, a duck.

• It’s associated with a dissociative psychological state. (citation) Basically, this means that speakers are aware of what they’re doing, but don’t really feel like they’re the ones doing it. In glossolalia, the state seems to come and then pass on, leaving speakers relatively psychologically unaffected. Disassociation can be problematic, though; if it’s particularly extreme and long-term it can be characterized as multiple personality disorder.

• It’s a learned behaviour. (citation) Basically, you only see glossolalia in cultures where it’s culturally expected and only in situations where it’s culturally appropriate. In fact, during her fieldwork, Dr. Goodman (see the citation) actually observed new initiates into a religious group being explicitly instructed in how to enter a dissociative state and engage in glossolalia.

https://makingnoiseandhearingthings.com/2013/11/07/the-science-of-speaking-in-tongues/

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Professor of Linguistics William J Samarin concluded:

• While speaking in tongues does appear at first to resemble human language, that was only on the surface.[3]:73, 104, 120-1, 121-127

• The actual stream of speech was not organized and there was no existing relationship between units of speech and concepts.[3]:73, 120, 127, 128

• The speakers might believe it to be a real language, but it was totally meaningless.[3]:121, 127

Anthropologist Felicitas Goodman compared it with rituals from Japan and Indonesia as well as Africa and Borneo and concluded that there was no distinction. It truly is universal and quite easily crosses religious divides.[8]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Very good summary. I've never seen anyone do it outside of YouTube but someone added me to a snake handling church Facebook group for the laughs and they have some videos of them doing it.

[–] DdCno1@kbin.social 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those insane snake handling churches that routinely have people bitten?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the group is a riot. Lots of them have died of snakebite and yet they persist.

There's a great book about it called Salvation on Sand Mountain that I highly recommend.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'd say that's to their credit.

Don't get me wrong, they're completely nuts, but at least they're consistent. Anyone who gets bitten doesn't have enough faith. Period.

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[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I grew up in a branch of the Pentecostal Church (not the snake handlers). Even as a kid I thought it was fucking wild that people did that.

My favorite times were when people were "overcome by the spirit" or whatever and they'd stand up to get attention and speak in tongues (same people every fucking week) and this crazy old woman would stand up and "interpret" what those folks were saying. Listen, Birdie, I'm pretty sure that if there is a god he doesn't speak solely in King James English.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I tried to speak in tongues when I was young. Somebody told me to just babble, so I did. Then I stopped because I knew I was just faking it. Some lady gushed, "what a beautiful prayer language!"

And then I knew they couldn't tell the difference. Thats how I began questioning what I was taught. Wish it still didn't take me so long after that.

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[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 96 points 7 months ago (2 children)

if anyone thinks this is acceptable behavior in any house of legislation, substitute what is happening here with an islamic call to prayer and prayer session.

did your opinion change? why is it okay that christians can do this and no one else?

[–] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

You won't really get to them that way. They'll retort with something like, "Well, the Pledge of Allegiance says 'One nation under God', not under Allah" and they'll high five and shoot some kids.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

why is it okay that christians can do this and no one else?

Because they're the correct ones. Duh. It wouldn't be acceptable for Muslims to do it because it would be bringing demonic forces into our houses of government...

Or something, I dunno, I haven't been a Christian for 20+ years.

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[–] cordlesslamp 67 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Am I crazy or does he looks like Trump and Elon Musk fused together?

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

I was going to say a demon in a skin suit, but that doesn’t change from the comparison that you made.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The stuff nightmares are made of

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The version of The Fly that nobody wanted

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Bizarre how exactly he looks like that wretched combination

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wow. I just had to click on a link on an article to find the video (because why embed... that's crazy talk) to be taken to a tweet that contained a tiktok video.

This experience could only be improved if the tiktok video was a person summarizing a reddit post.

What a world.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 7 months ago

And that Reddit post was talking about a Facebook post.

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 41 points 7 months ago

His face looks like he drinks the blood of newborn for breakfast.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He looks like alcoholic Mr Potato Head was stung by a bee.

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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I went to a Pentacostal church many years ago and one time they had a group session to practice speaking in tongues. It’s absolute horseshit.

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can tell it's horseshit because if they were actually performing the miracle of Speaking in Tongues that they claim to be you would be able to understand whatever they're babbling about regardless of what language you speak. If they were genuinely doing it you probably shouldn't even be able to tell unless someone who speaks a completely different language comes along and says something like, "Wow, it's crazy that this congregation prays in Swahili," or whatever.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I go to a progressive church. We laugh at this kind of shit. It's such a joke.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago (6 children)

And the rest of us laugh at you guys who think a progressive church is any less batshit crazy than speaking in tongues.

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[–] DrDominate@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago

I certainly thought it had to be just some normal prayer or maybe a Latin chant, but no. Its all of them independently and incoherently muttering to their god while kneeling over the state seal. Separation of church and state is long dead it seems.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hey! I don't hate God. I hate that people take the fiction as literal.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Idk, if their God created people like that then I do kinda hate that God too.

:P

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

If God is responsible for even a percent of what they all claim he has done, then God is a giant dick. And that's the understatement of eternity.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

We should do all republican laws in tongues!

....yeah my wife needs an abortion...oh they are illegal? Can you show me on the law where it says that? No?

[–] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Man walks into a psychiatrist office. He tells the doctor he speaks in an unknown dialect to a “god”. Is this person committed to an ~~insane asylum?~~ psychiatric institution? Why or why not??

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

72 hour psych hold at minimum and definitely not allowed any government job

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Still speedrunning their way to Gilead, I see...

[–] badbrainstorm 23 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Man, all this speaking in tongues talk lately is giving me PTSD. Next they'll be getting "drunk in the holy spirit". Every time they pulled this shit at church, I wished my mom would have chosen abortion instead

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[–] HunterOfGunners@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Religion has no place in politics. Not one whit. Practice whatever you want in your personal life, but nobody should be praying in a Senate.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

that looks fucking crazy, like as in they are fucking crazy.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

That’s because they are indeed insane. Unfortunately they are also in power

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[–] FiniteBanjo 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are we sure this isn't the onion?

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[–] TengoHipo@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Aren’t Christian’s awesome

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I'm Christian but I could not give the slightest shit about abortion. I worked for a gyne that performed them and saw the pathology reports all the time. It's literally a little spongy hemorrhagic tissue they are removing. It's such a nothing, and when you see the waiting room full of women you realize that EVERYONE across cultures and religions get abortions. I saw Mennonite women and women in full burqas out there, and Christian women praying on their knees.

Have the procedure and get on with your life. Don't let a few cells get in the way of your plans. It's a decision between you and your doctor and nobody else.

Incidentally I offered on Facebook to mail any American women the abortion pill, and Facebook immediately banned me for 30 days for selling illicit substances. I ended up being interviewed by Vice about it funnily enough.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

facebook is pro-fascism. you can tell by how they moderate. don't use fascist-supporting websites. get your friends and family off of them best you can

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[–] tal 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Kern

Huh. He's also apparently a deputy marshal in Tombstone -- yes that Tombstone, the location of the shootout at the OK Corral:

The gunfight at the O.K. Corral was a gunfight that lasted less than a minute between lawmen led by Virgil Earp and members of a loosely organized group of outlaws called the Cowboys that occurred at about 3:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, Arizona, United States. It is generally regarded [by whom?] as the most famous gunfight in the history of the American Old West.

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[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did they Photoshop his eyes like that or did he come factory new looking like a demon?

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