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It seems the fairer sex has taken to the fairer diet in greater numbers than their male counterparts. According to the data, a full 9% of women in the United States now identify as vegan, compared to a paltry 3% of men.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Have you actually read this article? It's full of bio essentialist nonsense. There is even weird talk of chromosomes. It also states that vegan men are emasculated. It honestly reads like a vegan J.K Rowling wrote this.

One must ask, what accounts for this striking disparity? Is it that the gentler sex is simply more in tune with the moral and environmental imperatives of eschewing animal products? Or is there something more primal, more innate to the feminine psyche that draws women toward a plant-based lifestyle?

I would argue it is the latter. For women, the decision to go vegan is not merely a rational calculation, but an expression of their very nature — a nature that is more nurturing, more empathetic, more attuned to the suffering of the innocent. Men, by contrast, are driven by baser urges — a need to dominate, to consume, to assert their masculinity through the mastery of the animal kingdom.

This is not to say there are no vegan men. There are, of course, a few outliers — the sensitive souls, the intellectual elites, the emasculated sycophants who have traded their Y-chromosomes for a plate of lentils. But by and large, the vegan movement remains the domain of the fairer sex.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

traded their Y-chromosomes for a plate of lentils

Wow is that all it takes? BRB telling all the transwomen I know

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

As a transfem vegan, gender discourse regarding veganism is simultaneously highly frustrating and highly validating. Regardless, saying something like "Giving a fuck about animal liberation is totes a beta, womanly, soyboy cuck thing." is of the highest imaginable category of cringe.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Fist we had soy soy-cutie making you a woman, now it's lentils lol

[–] jack@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not saying that he isn't arguing for veganism, he obviously is. I'm just taking issue with the arguments made that there is something biologically innate to women that makes them more likely to be vegan. Benevolent sexism is still sexism at the end of the day. And I'd also say that the differences in social conditioning between men and women have a much larger role to play in this difference than anything inherently biological.

Maybe it's one big ironic paragraph, but I don't have a medium account so I can't read the full piece.

Here is the full article, thanks to archive sites

https://archive.is/gC6V1

article sucks. None of this is "primal" or "innate", please read the feminist politics of meat. Also the numbers are wrong

According to the data, a full 9% of women in the United States now identify as vegan, compared to a paltry 3% of men.

linked article says:

Women are also more likely to be vegan, with 9% of women identifying as vegan compared to 3% of men

Links to https://faunalytics.org/ and not a specific study. Don't use garbage secondary sources for the entire basis of an article. These numbers are too high to be true. Note that, whatever study Faunalytics originally might have done, it was "identify as". People are notorious liars and will say shit like "I'm vegan except at restaurants". The gold standard is asking them like, are you vegan and specifically what did you eat for the last X meals.

I am a young vegan man in a city. Veganism skews young and left, so if these numbers were true I should be meeting a lot of vegan women. On dating apps, one in 30 or 50 profiles is vegan. This number is simply not true.

[–] Hexagons@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So, uh, OP, did you just post a link to your own subscription required blog?

You wrote a shitty post starting from one tiny bit of incredibly poorly sourced data and then making sweeping essentialist claims about gender. Then you posted your shitty piece here, behind a paywall!

Are you hoping that people from here will subscribe to your medium on the basis of the three paragraphs of dogshit we can read before the paywall cuts off the rest?

Have I mischaracterized your post in some way? Please tell me if so.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

Yeah, they just got banned for spamming their shitty blog everywhere.

[–] moon@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not surprising when eating red meat, grilling and barbeques are viewed as masculine activities

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't forget having an arsehole so caked with mud, blood and exposed entrails that it would put a WWI trench to shame.

[–] sinstrium@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

dont forget the gymbro protein junkies. I remember when I was young, not drinking milk and eating meat made you "gay".

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Bioessentialism 🤮

[–] blight@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] jack@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Damn so that's like 6% of all Americans. That's huge.

[–] Hexagons@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't trust that number. I tried to follow the citation trail back to its source and couldn't find the relevant study.

The link in the Medium post links to a terrible click bait blog post from a year ago, which then links to a website called "faunalytics", which says of itself "faunalytics conducts research and shares knowledge to help advocates help animals effectively". But I couldn't find the actual study with the 9% and 3% numbers. It might be there, but I couldn't find it.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So about 2X more women are vegan than men? Honestly I would have thought the ratio to be a lot higher.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago
[–] Angel@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

This reminds me of how, even though I'm pansexual and don't necessarily care about gender in my partners, I most certainly have a higher chance of ending up with a woman. They tend to be more likely to have traits I find more attractive and desirable, and veganism is one of them; it's a requirement actually. I also tend to prefer people who have long hair and are really empathetic and don't have toxic masculinity. If I meet a man with those boxes checked, I'd be fine with dating him, but it just seems so unlikely these days, especially with all the manosphere stuff that I see spreading too damn much.

[–] sinstrium@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

women also tend to be more left-leaning.

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's no shock that women, members of an underprivileged group, have ties to ideologies focused on uplifting and liberating the underprivileged. Animals also happen to be very underprivileged.

[–] sinstrium@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

True but the bathroom-doomers and birth control critic to handmaidens tale pipeliners are working hard to reverse it.

[–] EndMilkInCrisps@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Hamburger advertisements and their consequences.