"The CCP (Chinese Communist Party) is abusing RISC-V to get around U.S. dominance of the intellectual property needed to design chips"
Malding so hard that China is using an open standard for it's intended purpose.
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2024
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Pretty reasonable comment section. This is just as stupid as the TikTok conversation. RISK-V could be a real game changer, something that is ultimately good for business, but the rabid Sinophobes of America would rather stab themselves in the gut than do any real competition.
The entire computer stack is beholden to open standards. We'd be living in proprietary hell, and computers would be dog shit without them. Hexbear would only exist as a dial in BBS or Usenet instance.
Hexbear telnet BBS when?
Right? Don't threaten me with a good time!
https://enigma-bbs.github.io/features/
I wonder if it lets you play Legend of the Red Dragon or Usurper
Legend of the Red Dragon or Usurper
Why you gotta make me feel old like that?
Also, this has got me seriously thinking about running a doorgame system for the good people here. Mostly because I haven't played Tradewars 2002 in literally decades and I feel an itch to do so.
That's pretty sweet.
Shit that looks so cool. I was maybe 10 years to late to experience the BBS scene.
Chinese people can know and remember things and facts - but at what cost?
Lmao clown shit. RISCV is good, but it would be really funny if China went all in on loongson just to make the US cope even harder.
I'd be curious to see a comparison between the two. Since RISC-V was designed with educational use in mind, I kinda worry about its long-term suitability and ability to compete with other standards.
I remember seeing what looked like a good faith criticism of RISC-V from a computer architecture engineer where she argued that a few details of the ISA weren't going to be as good for implementing extremely high performance designs as the way the latest ARM ISA did things. But I don't know to what degree that will hold RISC-V back or if it will be changed in some of the many permutations of the ISA as it is now being scaled up to high performance and probably soon extremely high performance. But last I heard, Longsoon chips had matched Intel's current CPUs in some IPC tests, though they don't clock very high and the tested chip was only 4c/8t so overall performance wasn't great. That's still far ahead of where RISC-V is right now in terms of desktop computing.
I had thought that the latest longsoon chips were based off of a modified AMD design.
Well you see, RISC-V is a royalty-free ISA and an open standard, and is therefore *gasp* communist.
Or something like that.
I kinda hope that the killer clowns in charge of the US will force US companies to stop using RISC-V based architecture while the rest of the world moves on.
RISC-V? sounds RISK-Y!!!
Can't wait to see all the tech bros training their LLMs on superior western ~~Tube-~~ Intel/ARM-based computers while claiming that chinese RISC-V/LoongArch systems are worse because backdoors and communist spies.
When i see this headline all I hear is a babies cry.
America is an enemy of everything open and free.
I can't wait for term tankie to be expanded to now include ubuntu users.
Yea, good luck with that, go kick rocks. The Yanks are getting real scared of SMIC now, their first round of sanctions made China go from having decent semiconductor production capabilities to being able to compete with offerings from TSMC in like half a year and it will only keep getting better. America has sealed it's own fate, as is usual.
lol this should backfire so hard.
The only way to limit access to an open standard is to take it over and change the next version so it's now de facto proprietary. This is how ISO was corrupted when it came to docx. And this will mean nothing unless there's a ton of new processors out there using the new standard (let's call it RISC-VI) and it's so much better that anyone using RISC-V loses out.
Realistically, all this can do is make China rush even harder to produce RISC-V chips and ensure the actual chips that exist are using the open standard.
china should preemptively release RISC-VI (named after lenin of course).
This is how ISO was corrupted when it came to docx.
Do you have any links to more info on this? Sounds interesting and I want to know more.
This seems like an okay overview: https://brattahlid.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/is-docx-really-an-open-standard/
Basically ODF was already a standard and perfectly sufficient to tweak for anything Word would ever need but Microsoft knew that they keep their monopoly secure, in part, by making other software fight to be compatible with Word documents. They also prefer to be in control of the entire ecosystem rather than implementing a shared standard. They proposed docx and other -x formats as their own open standard and were rejected until they more or less bought off ISO through donations and committee positions.
Microsoft then proceeded to make their own proprietary tweaks anyways, making it still very difficult to support the docx format.
Inb4 US starts investigating the Sun for giving China free light.
Oh no, what will China do without a basic-ass instruction set that has less complexity than most 8-bit microcontroller archs???
China is not making relations easier, with a report yesterday finding that Chinese universities have been sidestepping sanctions on Nvidia GPUs.
Lol
Dumbest cold war ever. I hate this.