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A strain of highly pathogenic avian influenza has been silently spreading in US cattle for months, according to preliminary analysis of genomic data. The outbreak is likely to have begun when the virus jumped from an infected bird into a cow, probably around late December or early January. This implies a protracted, undetected spread of the virus — suggesting that more cattle across the United States, and even in neighbouring regions, could have been infected with avian influenza than currently reported.

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[–] tal 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Apparently we only realized that this outbreak was occurring after it'd been spreading for about 5 months or so.

The data also show occasional jumps back from infected cows to birds and cats. “This is a multi-host outbreak,” says Nelson.

It's also been jumping across multiple mammal species. No confirmed human-to-human transmission yet, but...

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Except only idiots drink nonpasteurized milk so it won't spread to the general population. Or we already would have had a pandemic.

Using our standard protocols works, no need to fear.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Oh good - there's plenty of those lunatics around where I live.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So about 40% of the population in the US?

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Where are you getting 40% of the population not only drinks but has easy access to nonpasteurized milk? We get stuff from local farms occasionally and all we can get is non homogenized, it's most definitely still pasteurized. And even then its still way way better than the store bought stuff.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean 40% are idiots. Just start a hoax about unpasteurized milk being free from government chemicals and you’ll see.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That's not how that works. It's illegal to sell unpasteurized milk, the only way to get it is to either know someone willing to risk it or to have your own cows, goats, etc.

Most of the population (including the redneck trumpers) have no clue where to get meat, dairy, produce that isn't from the grocery store or dollar general. I was in that group until I moved to what I call country'ish and met my wife who had been using csas for decades.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are many states where it is legal to sell raw milk. You can not transport it across state lines, but if the farmer chooses to sell it in their own state, it's perfectly legal to do so.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

True but you aren't going to find it on the store shelf and the average person isn't going to know where to buy it. You lot at completely missing my point. I'm not surprised because most people can't handle more than one thought at a time.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re missing the point. But that’s fine, it’s not really important.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I got the point. I was making my own and you seem to be missing it, you are also I bet in the large group of people who don't know how to buy food that isn't from a grocery store or local butcher.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Looks like you’re trying to attack someone. Go ahead, attribute more things to me. Might be cathartic for you.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Get over yourself. This isn't about you, I said nothing to attack you. I said that you probably didn't know how to find food that wasn't from the usual source which is not an insult, it's a statement of fact, I didn't know about csas until my wife taught me about them.

Would you consider it an insult if I I said you probably don't know much if anything about quantum mechanics? Would I be attacking you by saying that it's sunny out? If so, you might want to talk to someone.

I'm going to add you to my block list because I don't have time for people with a combo of comprehension issues and a persecution complex.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

The virus spreads mostly asymptomatically. If the cows don't get sick and their milk production doesn't decrease suddenly nobody starts testing for viruses.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago

It says the viral load we need to get it is very high so it’s hard to catch.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This all true?

The risk of transmission from cows to humans is considered low, as the virus requires a large dose of virus to infect humans. Additionally, the virus is not easily spread through milk or other dairy products, as it is inactivated by pasteurization.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Guys the risk is super low, don't stop the cow torture industry okay? It's the most important thing right now.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

this was my concern, too. Especially after reading about how the WHO didn't want to say covid was airborne because it would be hard to deal with or something so they stuck to a completely unsupported droplet theory to basically protect businesses from having to provide better ventilation

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If the risk is high, they simply kill all the cows. That's the reason eggs were so expensive a couple years ago.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

What will we eat if we kill all the cows and chickens? That's the majority of American's protein sources. And there's no way pigs aren't getting infected as well. Oceans are already overfished. Majority of the country will not be able to convert easily to veganism and still get their nutrients.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

as it is inactivated by pasteurization.

Well, if it is actually pasteurized. Some anti-science people in the US will soon learn that there is a reason for pasteurization of milk...

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean I heard my doctor at the time tell me corona virus probably wouldn't be a thing in Feb 2020.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yep, same. Doctor hassled me for wearing a mask in a health clinic. Told me it was gonna be fine. Told her Trump said the same thing, so we were definitely fucked. She didn't like that.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this might be a silly question, but why not attempt to vaccinate the cows?

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 5 months ago

There's no vaccine yet. It's being worked on.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These cows were fed boiling distillery waste, often leaving the cows with rotting teeth and other maladies. The milk drawn from the cows was routinely adulterated with water, rotten eggs, flour, burnt sugar and other adulterants with the finished product then marketed falsely as "pure country milk"

Humans never learn

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Point taken.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This might be a dumb question, but how does this have a predicted 50% mortality rate in mammals, but the cows aren't dropping dead left or right?

Idk if the 50% is accurate, but I see it keep getting repeated.

[–] tal 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The mortality rate is specific to humans.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

How could they possibly know that when those numbers were thrown around before a large enough sample size has caught it?

I am not even aware of 30 human cases to date.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

No one could have ever seen this coming /s