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[–] notceps@hexbear.net 97 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

After much campaigning, doing groundwork and burning bridges Kamala Harris has finally overcome her 'being better than Trump' status and is now polling behind the incredibly dry boy.

Something something snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I don't think people realise how alienating Kamala Harris' rhetoric is to non-white/POC men. I've made a mention of it before, but it really is baffling, like a modern version of the Hillary Clinton "super predators" rhetoric. I want to a larger post on it but I'm not sure if I'm the right person to point it out. Maybe I'm chasing ghosts on this, but I can see it clearly.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

I for one would love to read that

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

try your best and put something down.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago
[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Im sure it would be good

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

All she had to do was stop arming Israel.

Actually if she came out with an executive order that stopped universities from destroying encampments she would've been polling ahead comfortably.

Actually if she just came out and said she wouldn't put Republicans in her cabinet she'd be doing better.

She's going to lose come November

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Had a kamala-coconut-tree campaigner text me to join a watch party for the debates 40 minutes away. Told them I don't support those who arm fascists and support genocide. The Dem party has become too far right and now the party of Bush and Cheney and I'll be voting Green in Michigan.

Campaigner actually was considerate and said they'd send that up to the campaign. Just too many 'good Germans'....er well meaning people caught up in the D/R trap.

I don't think she's going to win Michigan. Maybe a lot of so-true FIRST WOMAN BLACK ASIAN PRESIDENT. I remember obama-socialism Obama fever. Thinking we somehow evolved as a society. Oh oh!

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

Speaking of watch party tho, are we gonna watch the debate on hextube?

Probably not anywhere near as funny as seeing Genocide Joe's brain melting but having comrades to watch it with is probably the only way I could stomach listening to either of them

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She's not going to win, we had the same thing with Hillary as the first woman president.

If she couldn't win kamala definitely isnt

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can you imagine if Hillary lives to see another woman become the first female President of the United States of America? That might make it worth it right there lol.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's my silver lining to this whole shitty election, either way the outcome is sure to make Hillary unhappy

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

If kamala wins, it will be the only silver lining

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

They’re different: Hillary lost because she didn’t try to win Michigan. Kamala is going to lose because she’s trying to lose Michigan.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

All she had to do was stop arming Israel.

this is definitely not true. americans absolutely do not give a shit about or vote based on foreign policy. at the level of the entire electorate, the american public is a bunch of goldfish brained nitwits. dem voters say that they want a ceasefire, but if kamala were to say 'no more weapons' there would be an enormous blacklash of aipac nazi propaganda. that would whip public sentiment sufficiently back that she would buckle and walk back any policy promise, appeasing nobody.

further, she is literally the vice president for another 5 months. if somehow she got a brain transplant and started fighting for a ceasefire now, there is no way there would be enough uptake from the bloodthirsty american electorate that it would be worth the votes she would gain. a campaign promise of not arming israel would mean she would be going up against both biden and the GOP. she would not net gain voters in that fight.

I'm not making a prediction about whether kamala wins or loses, but I am making a prediction that whatever happens will not be driven by electoral pushback about american war crimes. on the whole, americans do not give a shit about war crimes.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

on the whole, americans do not give a shit about war crimes.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, thing is a few states have populations consisting of the people who are being murdered. Unfortunately for her, those states are swing states she needs to win.

If 100K out of the 200K+ population of Muslims in Michigan decides not to vote or not vote for her, she's screwed out of 16 EC votes.

She is almost certain to lose Florida and Ohio is a swing state that leans red.

That's 18 and 29 for Ohio and Florida respectively.

She absolutely can't afford to lose anymore swing states. She needs Pennsylvania and Georgia and even then it isn't a guarantee.

It's not about Americans in general, it's about some Americans in swing states. She needs to appeal to those people because they are the ones that actually decide if she's going to win or not.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Americans under 30 absolutely give a shit about war crimes.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

americans under 30 also don't vote very much. what you're saying is true, but not meaningful for electoral politics. also, even americans under 30 don't rank foreign policy as their main issues - to the extent they vote, they vote on other issues.

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

i don't buy it. you only need to look at the precipitous drop in Biden's polling after the only unambiguously good foreign policy development in years (exiting afghanistan) to know that Americans are antagonistic to, or at best unmoved by, a humane approach to the world.

Harris is doing bad because Biden can't close on Ukraine or Israel -- flipping the messaging, withdrawing support, the issues in-and-of-themselves don't matter, no one votes on foreign policy -- but what matters and is detrimental is that withdrawing support, that flipping the messaging -- "Losing"-- looks weak and incompetent, which Harris can't afford as a female candidate, which she can't afford against the racist, "crisis of competency" framing of the GOP.

it might be one thing if Harris ran as an unambiguous anti-interventionist champion -- she would look strong and principled -- but as VP she can't run away from the current administration, which means she is tied to biden who is tied to Blinken's blinkered view of the world, which assumed that one could just let the Israelis could tire themselves out with a little, incredibly disproportionate amount of violence -- not understanding that 10/8 is Bibi's pretext for clinging onto power indefinitely, not understanding that the most evil and vile people on the planet will use it to excuse a final ethnic cleansing.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

which assumed that one could just let the Israelis could tire themselves out with a little, incredibly disproportionate amount of violence --

Oh shit our secretary of state is Zapp Brannigan, isn't it?

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even that. Not saying anything or sticking to some vague non-committing platitudes would have been enough.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Democrats really think people will choose them if they're "forced" to.

The biggest political party is undecided in the US. How are they this disconnected from reality?

You still have to try to get people to vote for you because people can just not show up period.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All she had to do was to wave and shut up until November and even that proved too difficult.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was unfortunate that she existed in the context of all in which she lived and what came before her

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's never gonna poll well with Americans

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Context? No thank you, regular text is just fine"

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[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

i mean, the counterfactual isn't the two-week honey moon where everyone loved her and projected their values onto her. she was always going to have to articulate something -- the issue is that she's a flipflopper, literally inarticulate, and she's tripping over herself to square or unsquare her positions with Biden's. and her inability to do so elegantly (and thereby being on the hook for Biden's foreign wars), makes her look weak and incompetent, and fits comfortably in the GOP's framing of her as a DEI charity case.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

She literally is a DEI charity case, her entire reason for having her VP position was to kill and coopt the George Floyd protests. If she was not black she would not have been chosen, it’s that simple. Sorry but GOP are correct on this, but for the opposite reason that they think

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

i'm not sure that i would disagree, i was just clarifying her difficulties.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m with you, but how is it opposite the reason they think? They couldn’t have chosen a worse VP candidate than her, and it’s baffling that they decided to crown her this year.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

they think she's a DEI pick because the Marxist Communist Democrats are pushing black women on the population to make everyone more woke. That's stupid.

She is a Diversity Hire, but it was because she's a traitor and sell-out and she was used to co-opt and destroy leftist movements and make everyone less woke, not more. She's was hired/picked to sell "defunding the police is a republican idea, let's increase funding for training for cops" to the Democrats, and she could do it because she's a black woman.

Chuds think corporations push DEI to make everyone more woke, when in fact it's the opposite, corporations cynically use identity to shield themselves from criticism and push reactionary corporate ends.

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

also white liberals think that they're MLK when they get to vote for a black person

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

"Abortions for some, miniature american flags for others!"

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago (3 children)

she could've doubled down on price-controls, such an easy W.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago

Sorry, best I can do is Hitlerian speeches contextphobic

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

The unrealized capital gains tax and the fine print associated with it was peak Harris.

Free college*

*To anyone that opened up a business in a poor or developing neighborhood for 3 years.

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[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I truly thought Trump was cooked after seeing him speak. He was pathetic. Boring. Juiceless. Dry.

But Harris may be the best in a generation at losing. Hillary thought she was the best at being the worst but Harris might loose to a far weaker Trump than Hillary ever did.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Imagine losing to "I lose the 2020 elections" era Trump.

[–] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago

Of course she's electable if you fucking VOTE for her

[–] Des@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

damn appropriate colors for once

[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

Team oil vs. team piss

[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it's because she's now running as kamala, and not not-biden (rip)

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Her two biggest positives were negatives: not Biden and not Trump. Given enough time to find out who she is, most people won’t be able to keep themselves from hating her.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

yeah she's doubling down on gaza and trying to outflank trump from the right on immigration, so those two positives aren't holding up well

I wouldn't say I'm happy about it but experiencing trump winning in 2016 round 2 (but I'm a communist this time) is really gonna be an interesting social experience if things continue on the current trajectory.

[–] weeen@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

labour (uk) tried this exact strategy, they won due to collapse of the tories but recieved less votes than when they LOST in 2019, more tory 2019 voters died than switched to labour and the reform party (far right populist) recieved massive gains

So most of the tories that they were trying to win over either didn't vote, voted reform, or DIED.

The people that they alienated (the left, muslims, black people and trans people) were lost to greens/independent.

Even when you luck out and it 'works' it puts you on the road to failure in the next election.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

No red psl in the polls, true 1% of 1% time. Also, usa electorate is completely folded, fucking ross perot could pull 20 percent ~~with a box of scraps~~, weird pow propaganda and slides.