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More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I wish these .ml clowns would hold their impotent revolution stirring for ONE critical election. Once trump is gone and MAGA gets told they are unacceptable by a massive blue tsunami, then trump is completely into dementia before he gets another chance to lose, then you can go be a hero and fight against our interests at home in favor of....still doing genocide....or whatever ignorant magical change you think is going to happen instead.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If they're having their revolution by voting in an election they need to brush up on what a revolution is.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yes, this is what makes you suspect they are bot/trolls.

If they know they need a revolution, then actually revolt - with fucking petardes and guillotines; that type of shit. If they're not ready to do that, they may as well kick trump in the balls first whilst they muster the wherewithal.

"Voting thrd party because voting is broken?! " wtf?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Strawman. You can just ask third party voters what they think their vote will mean.

Same if they think abstentionism positively impacts their chances of revolution.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

And then the next Trump will stand up, there is a long waiting line already.

What nees to change is the game, the rules. Elections should be counting ALL votes and comparing those, not voting for guys that will elect your guy. Elections should NOT be winner takes all, NOT first past the post. The US needs 30 political parties, not two, not three. The entire political system needs to be redesigned and rebuilt from the ground up

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

They've already proven repeatedly that other nutjob candidates just don't hit the same for his base

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And term limits at all stages, right up to supreme court justices.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Would that mean some sort of coalition government?

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yup, and under one there is a chance, with a ton of effort, of changing it. Also, there are only two options. A broken but fixable democracy if you vote Kamala and trump if you vote anyone else.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dont disagree ive been actively campaigning for rcv etc in my state for years. Thankfully i can do two things at the same time.

[–] sandbox@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“Guys, I get it, the Holocaust is bad, but if we vote for Himmler, he will stop it. Hitler will do the holocaust but even more bad!”

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Edit: sandbox this not directed at you. Just clarifying.

Last I checked no one has suggested supporting trump instead. Seek help you've been seeing things that are not real.

To everyone else show up, vote with your heart. I live in a safe state, i still voted down ballot for the majority of my reps. If you're in a similar situation please consider doing the same and contacting your reps and letting them know why. Dont let Kamala and the dnc force you into supporting a genocide its not worth it.

If you're in a swing state do what you need to do to protect your local community in whatever way you can. Yes, including supporting harris if thats what it'll take, despite shitty of a candidate she is^1^. I promise you people like myself are not upset with people supporting kamala. I have no interest in shaming you for voting.

But if you think trying to stop a genocide is unreasonable, well... You're the problem, and i will happily call you out for your disgusting bullshit.

^1^ Kamala has remained uncommited to labor. (No policies for pto,sick leave, healthcare reform, workers rights.

Kamala has remained uncommited to keeping khan the best head of the FTC we've seen in my life. See related mentions about labor they're coupled.

Kamala has done more to harm the muslim community than just supporting a genocide shes actively suppressed them in our own country, if she's willing to throw one minority group under the bus shes willing to throw others.