I’ll stick to Kamala cuz you brought her up.

IMO, they know what to do if they want to win. FDR showed them and was the most successful Democratic president in modern history. successfully. Bernie showed them by getting unprecedented number of people, young and old, rural and urban, to support him - without any institutional backing.

If Kamala wanted to truly, from the bottom of heart, win, above everything else - just like what Trump wants - then she would’ve done what they did. Promised populist policies, and presented herself as anti-establishment and gotten the staff that would support that.

Of course, this would require the DNC to back her up, giving her the kind of support Trump receives - but lets suppose for a moment they also want to just truly win at all costs - if that is what they want above all else, then why wouldn’t they?

This didn’t happen. This never happens. It will never happen. They might gesture towards some populist messaging sometimes (because there are factions within every group) but overall? They don’t want to win like that. They cannot afford to.

So they lose. And they combine their forces to defeat anyone who threatens to win along those lines.

To Democrats, being the Center party, being the neoliberal party, making sure they at some level appear to have some working-class voices, but never allowing them to rise beyond a certain level or amass more than a trivial amount of power, is far more important that “winning”. That is, in my opinion, their role.

When they had a chance to do m4a right and had the votes i recall screaming back at the insanity of the television. the message we were being fed of

bipartisanship

... how important it was for Dems to be ...ugh.... bipartisan, and include Republicans input and help from committees on up.

That was a major foundation crack in my belief in them as a representative party.

I mean, ask yourself how many times you've seen Biden and other Dems insist that is very important we have a strong and respectable Republican party in this country?

I think they're in on the game.

Do you remember what Harris's answer was when asked how she would be different from Biden?

how self-aware-ly are Libs doing this?

not

they're cucks not psychopaths

Conservatives believe in changing the world according to their preferred vision of it and will implement the necessary processes to get there. Libs don't really believe in anything except following established processes in their hollow glorification of the civil society rules based order. This, of course, ends you up at every die hard liberal ideologue doing the conservatives job for them.

Kamala took advice from her brother in law, who is an Uber executive. She worked hard to cozy up to billionaires and involve them in her campaign. Her personal goal was to embed herself into ruling class circles, or possibly curry their favor to keep the Democratic party donor machine running. Everything else was secondary