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Seriously tho these people can’t be serious, right? Like this has to be a fucking op

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[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

My dad once explained to me how communism works and why it fails. A teacher decides that from now on on assignments he is going to add up all of the grades and give the students the average no matter how they did. The kids who did good on the test are upset because they got a bad grade due to the dumb kids who didn’t even try on the test. On the next test they don’t try because they know that it no longer matters and get an even worse grade. Eventually everyone stops trying.

Fucking what.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lmao

The trick with that idiotic metaphor is that grades are a million times fairer than capitalism

OK like imagine this. What if:

  • grades aren't dependent just on the quality of your assignments, but the sheer quantity
  • you need about 10 million man-hours per year to get an A+
  • but lucky for you, you can have other people do your schoolwork for you!
  • in exchange for writing out all your assignments, you allow your workers to have a C-
  • if they stop working on your assignments, they'll get an F and flunk out

Yeah so uhhh, that sounds like the dumbest fucking school ever and I would absolutely want to "share" those grades between people equally

EDIT: Oh and GRADES CAN BE PASSED DOWN TO YOUR CHILDREN

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

you need about 10 million man-hours per year to get an A+

you need to network with the people who give out A+s or people who know a lot of A+ givers to get an A+ or even just to get a C.

if there's one thing planned economies are known for, it's not ever setting benchmarks for success. when factories underproduced in the soviet union, the bureaucrats simply said "okay thats fine sweetie."

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile under capitalism, the ones swinging the hammers the hardest in the factories make as many times more money than the one in the suit sitting in the cozy office in the corner, right?

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My commune once explained to me how capitalism works and why it fails. A teacher decides that those who get the best grades get to take 10 points off the test of the kids who get the lowest grades. The kids who did well don't try on the next test because they get free points from the kids who did bad on the last test. The kids who do bad try hard to get a better grade, but don't because their points go to the kids ahead of them. Also the grades your parents got in school determines your first grade on the test. Eventually everyone kills the rich kids and the teacher.

[–] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

These people evidently think that socialism calls for equalisation, for levelling the requirements and personal, everyday life of the members of society. Needless to say, such an assumption has nothing in common with Marxism, with Leninism. By equality Marxism means, not equalisation of personal requirements and everyday life, but the abolition of classes, i.e., a) the equal emancipation of all working people from exploitation after the capitalists have been overthrown and expropriated; b) the equal abolition for all of private property in the means of production after they have been converted into the property of the whole of society; c) the equal duty of all to work according to their ability, and the equal right of all working people to receive in return for this according to the work performed (socialist society); d) the equal duty of all to work according to their ability, and the equal right of all working people to receive in return for this according to their needs (communist society). Moreover, Marxism proceeds from the assumption that people’s tastes and requirements are not, and cannot be, identical and equal in regard to quality or quantity, whether in the period of socialism or in the period of communism.

There you have the Marxist conception of equality.

Marxism has never recognised, and does not recognise, any other equality.

To draw from this the conclusion that socialism calls for equalisation, for the levelling of the requirements of the members of society, for the levelling of their tastes and of their personal, everyday life—that according to the Marxist plan all should wear the same clothes and eat the same dishes in the same quantity—is to utter vulgarities and to slander Marxism.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their dad really understood capitalism joker-amerikkklap

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Lol seriously. Old job used to have great management after it opened. People had no problem working some extra or less hours because they know everyone had each other’s back including the managers. But then corporate downsized a bunch, the good managers got fired and replaced by like 1 or 2 guys. Nobody ever knew who the second guy was, and the first one was a piece of shit who made everyone miserable. Eventually everyone slowly started to put in less effort and quit. The guys in the freezers and warehouse wasn’t aware that people were quitting until the managers went back and hassled them. Now whenever I go to the store I see like 2/10 registers open lol

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is just the same old recycled "I taught my kids communism by giving them all the same rewards for their chores" bullshit parable we've all seen before.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Here my dad told me to do my chores by quoting Marx. "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs" but to justify why I needed to clean the bathroom.

Whatever his motives I definitely took it to heart

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

That dad's name?

Joseph McCarthy.

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't this what grading on a curve is? Like a really shitty explanation for an utterly normal capitalist thing?

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

No, grading on a curve is kinda more when you assign the grades based on how you did relative to everyone in the class and the actual scores on the test don't matter.