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Hey folks, the results are in and the vast majority of active Hexbear users say they are not cishet! hexbear-pride

This survey had the same limitations of our previous transgender survey. This means we do not have the tech to make this survey more accurate through other means (more questions, more options, negative/positive answering, anonymous answering, etc). However, we do have a good sampling of the active userbase (about 1/3rd of daily active users answered) and combined with the transgender poll, we can conclude that Hexbear is an overwhelmingly queer instance that is proud of stating its queerness publicly.

You can see the graphs of the previous transgender survey here:


You can find the raw (public) data of the survey here. Feel free to audit my numbers and make sure I didn't hallucinate anything!

The total tally was

Yes = 114 
No = 195 
Unsure = 30 
Total = 339 

A number of people did not follow instructions properly, and I put them into the category that made sense based on the information they provided.

A number of people used the dean-malice emote which was not in the set of emojis I provided for responses. Most were merged into yes, unless they stated they were queer otherwise.

This survey is a little less complex than the last one, I kept it short and sweet and did not tally the pronouns.

Both surveys were done over three days and were pinned on the front page.


P.S. Thanks @ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml for helping make this a bit quicker with your code here.

I hope you all have as much fun with this information as I did and I hope you all have a great Pride Month cat-trans

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[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

It's so interesting seeing how there's almost no cis women in online left spaces but irl, they seem to be the plurality (at least amongst the younger crowd (aka same age demographic as online) for sure they are)

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Let me know if I'm off the mark about any of this, but my guess is that we'd see a significant bump in cis women if the polling were anonymous. Things are getting lot better now as the internet becomes increasingly diverse, but early on it was dominated by white, cishet techbros who suddenly found themselves with their own anonymous soapbox with endless reach.

Cis women learn from an early age that outing their gender on the internet results in creeps crawling out of the woodwork to harass them, so they don't do it. Transwomen face the same misogyny, but are far more comfortable on the internet owing to their experience of using it before hatching.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Transwomen face the same misogyny, but are far more comfortable on the internet owing to their experience of using it before hatching.

Male socialization mentioned!!! Let's goooooo

AMAB AMAB AFAB ARAB ACAB

[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I'm really stoned and was just spitballing there. Is what I said reactionary or adjacent to the way reactionaries use the term male socialization?

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No not really, sorry I just have tgcj syndrome

[–] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What is tgcj syndrome ? I googled but am getting uninterpretable reddit bigotry

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Transgendercirclejerk. I'm assuming the subreddit.

[–] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ohhhhh ok yeah I'm a dumbass. That subreddit kept coming up with just the acronym in the title but I did not put 2 and 2 together.

Classic stormfromt bullshit then

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tgcj is basically deep fried irony beyond the level of this site even. Everyone posting there is trans

[–] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

Damn I did not catch that. Ok well another visit then

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In case you didn't catch it, /r/transgendercirclejerk is of by and for trans people.

[–] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit, I only looked at 1 post and I guess I missed that it was satire. My B. Or I'm now misinterpreting you message but I dont think it's that..

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

No, it is satire.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

That's also true, mentioned it in the original survey.

[–] niph@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I put unsure, which is true, though I’m AFAB and cis presenting. A lot of online spaces (whether leftist or otherwise) are just hard to interact with when you’ve grown up conditioned to femininity. At least on Twitter, TikTok etc there is some amount of accountability with people’s accounts but in more anonymised spaces the language and discourse is often just very… dismissive, cynical, violent, etc. and it’s not that it’s not warranted, but cis women are often raised to be repelled by that kind of tone so it can be a shock/difficult to fit in even if the space isn’t overtly or implicitly misogynist.

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

That makes a lot of sense to me. Just yesterday, I was on 4chan (not to hang out, but unfortunately it's still the best place to find certain things, so I will do targeted searches to get what I need and get out) and I happened to go into one of the few enclaves that's dominated by women. I swear it was it was like I was on an entirely different site: shocking, but in a good way. People are being nice to each other! No one's throwing slurs around or being casually misogynist! It's still 4chan, so there is some weirdness, but it's a lot closer to Tumblr tone-wise than I would have ever imagined possible. I suppose that's one of the advantages of imageboards--if you want to, you can pretty much just live inside of a few ongoing threads and completely ignore the rest of the site, which isn't really facilitated by a reddit-style platform.

Even if the politics of Hexbear could hardly be more different from 4chan and it doesn't have the same culture of being needlessly rude to each other, I can definitely see how the jocularity and calls for violence (ironic or otherwise) could be off-putting. Tbh, it's not a dialect I'm particularly fluent in either, but I'm more or less inured to it and (unlike 4chan) I don't have to communicate that way myself to be accepted here.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Because irl women face gender discrimination and greater exploitation, which is a very radicalizing experience that most would like to do away with after facing it from the time you first gain consciousness until you pass away.

Not to attempt to invalidate anybody’s life experience or belittle anybody for their organizing efforts, but men, on the basis of their privileged position in society, have a lot less to directly gain by spending real time and real effort organizing and thus have less actual motivation on average to do something about it.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Idk, trans women deal with a lot of awful things too and thats why so many are shut ins.

But I bet cis women use social media to the same degree, they just prefer a different format

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

While many trans women are as you’ve described for the reason you described, I accounted for trans women in my comment already and would have to disagree with what you are saying if you are trying to contradict my initial comment. In my personal organizing experience, trans folks are by far the most disproportionately represented demographic, and I would have to say it’s probably for the same reason I listed above.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you go further into what you mean?

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I just mean that in terms of comrades I’ve organized with over the years, a much higher percent have been trans than trans people represent in the population as a whole; the reason for this being that the experience of life as a trans person is inherently radicalizing

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ooh OK, I was having a hard time reading that for some reason. No coffee today kitty-birthday-sad

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

Sometimes I really do forget caffeine is a drug until I haven’t had it and get mad and shaky