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[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 161 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (27 children)

This is where we are now in 2024.

Check if Game is Safe to Buy Checklist:

  • The game is available as a direct download, on Steam, GOG, or a console I own (if I want to play on console)
  • The game functions
  • The game is complete, has launched publicly, and has mostly positive reviews
    • Exception: If I believe enough in the product to purchase it early access
  • The game is compatible with my system
    • In my case, this also means 32x9 support in Windows
      • AND Linux because I’m heading there soon no doubt
  • The game’s performance is generally good on a system with my components
  • The game’s bugs aren’t a dealbreaker to me
  • The game is fun
  • The game price is a good value to me
  • The game is not PTW
  • The game has minimal/no MTX
  • If the game has MTX, it’s not intrusive
  • If the game has in-game currency, it can be earned in-game without grinding for ages
  • The game has no advertisements (unless it’s just for a joke)
  • The game is not from the following developers:
    • Bethesda Games Studios (post FO4)
    • Battlestar Games
    • Psyonix
    • Whoever developed the Gollum game?
    • Starbreeze Studios
    • [more to come]
  • The game is not from the following publishers:
    • Sony/Playstation
    • Bethesda Softworks
    • EA
    • Activision Blizzard (post D3)
    • Riot Games
    • WB
    • Deep Silver
    • Ubisoft
    • Psyonix
    • Gearbox (post BL2)
    • [more to come]
  • The game does not require 3rd party launchers
  • The game does not require 3rd party DRM
  • The game does not require 2nd or 3rd party account linking
  • The game does not require kernel-level anti-cheat
  • The game is not related with a blockchain, NFTs, or crypto
  • The developer of the game treats their employees well
  • The publisher of the game treats their developer well
  • The game is not a live service game
  • If the game is co-op, it allows local hosting
  • If the game is single-player, it does NOT require an Internet connection to play (optional net connection OK for things like Elden Ring features)
  • Red Flags:
    • Games developed by:
      • Hello Games
      • CDPR
      • Rockstar
    • Nintendo games (it supports Nintendo’s crappy business practices)

*some exceptions still apply

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 72 points 6 months ago (4 children)

So... We're down to solitaire and minesweeper.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Don't those have ads on Windows now?

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[–] Jako301@feddit.de 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Whoever developed the Gollum game?

It was Daedalic Entertainment and their older and more indi titles are fine. Since they closed down their dev team after gollum, I don't think you need to avoid them.

[–] Maultasche@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

All of their point and click adventures are great. Unfortunate things went downhill after Poki left the company.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 6 months ago

You should definitely check out this video to understand hello games were the good guys fucked over by a bunch of hype and then Sony, the publisher, giving the studio barely any support while pushing the blame on them for everything.

https://youtu.be/O5BJVO3PDeQ?si=S5grsjEigZVumO4a

[–] tiberius@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Sounds about right. You should add Paradox Interactive as they added a launcher to Across the Obelisk.

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[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Why CDPR? They just had a single game with a disaster last gen console launch and a kinda rough PC launch, they made up for it in basicly no time and iirc they own Gog the platform without any drm always online crap

[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

it was only in "red flags"?

maybe more of a "never pre-order" type comment?

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I meant it more as a caution than a "DO NOT BUY"

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[–] atocci@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Why Psyonix? Rocket League is the only game they still work on.

Edit: Psyonix isn't even a publisher

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Only things I can remember for Psyonix was they dropped OS support for Mac and Linux, pulled the game from steam, and required an epic account to continue playing. Luckily refunds were being honored when it happened.

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

They also removed trading for epic's stupid rocket racing mode that died within a month, made dropshot and snow rotate with each season causing people to throw because who cares about a seasonal mode, servers getting worse every day, doing nothing to stop the smurfing and boosting problems, GC level bots still in ranked (although not as much), invisible players, cheaters able to fuck with the servers and cause disconnects/lag, and just general toxicity from the player base that they won't address.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 7 points 6 months ago

Bingo. I was a Steam, Linux, and Mac (IIRC) player.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you need an Epic account to play if you already have it through Steam?

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] atocci@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago

Thanks I haven't played in a long while and couldn't remember.

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

maybe I should make one of those meme / concept review accounts on steam and run games through this list.

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[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] Schal330@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

I agree, why Hello Games. They are a studio that has gone to great lengths to make the game better and haven't charged a single penny more. Sean Murray has learnt to not overhype things. I'm looking forward to Light No Fire and having seen what they are capable of following all the NMS updates I have confidence they can succeed.

[–] swab148@startrek.website 7 points 6 months ago

No Man's Sky wasn't all it was hyped to be on launch, it's actually much better now (I'm literally playing it right this second lol)

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 77 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So arrowhead are 100% telegraphing that this is Sony not them

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 87 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They've literally stated it. ~~I'll see if I can find it again.~~ Found it. https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cj8p0x/from_the_community_manager_on_the_discord/

[–] atocci@kbin.social 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Getting strong "our hands are tied" vibes from everything they say 😞

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

Fun fact on Sony:

Warframe, regardless of what you think of Digital Extremes, had cross platform play pushed last year out, more recently cross platform save too. Both worked out of the gate when launched, they did their homework.

At its inception, each platform had its own little icon beside the player name to indicate what device they were on.

Sony took a look at the system and apparently freaked out that there was the potential of a PS player losing a PvP match to an Xbox or Switch player and demanded via legal threats that it be changed immediately.

MS didn't seem to care and I think Nintendo was just amazed a half decent looking game with as many mechanics as Warframe can run on the Switch.

So now, players can see who is on their platform, and a universal icon if they aren't.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Whoever plays Warframe for the PvP suffers from brain rot.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah thats the funny bit, no one uses its PvP modes.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 11 points 6 months ago

This is the case with every cross-platform game I've played on PS. PS logo for PS players, a generic icon for everybody else. Makes it really frustrating in crossplay games when I have to ask myself "Did I somehow get placed into a M&K lobby, or is this guy just a Xim cheater?"

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago

Wow, that's petty

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was actually planning on getting this game until all this.

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

I was thinking about buying the game and immediately refunding but apparently it would do literally nothing to hurt Sony except pad their refund stats

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm still seeing that tweet with the context you screenshotted

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the tweet is an issue, but the linked page being edited.

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