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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 232 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Wouldn't encouraging cession mean MTG is now encouraging active rebellion against the United States? And wouldn't that make her ineligible to hold office under the 14th amendment?

Let's get that lawsuit roll'in.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would think, but this is the second time she's suggested secession (admittedly she wasn't as blatant the first time) and nothing was done. I doubt anything will be done this time either. It wasn't even a major headline.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Voicing an opinion, especially a political one, is pretty heavily protected. I think there would need to be some other crime being committed (e.g. actually taking up arms).

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Good question No, if she only advocates for amending the constitution. Yes, if she tells people to take up arns

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 133 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alternative title: Margarine Trailer Queen endorses treason.

[–] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Margarine Failure Gangrene got a face like leathery treason.

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The Union should have scorched earth the South when it had the chance. Tear up their train tracks, block the harbors, nationalize all the farm lands, dissolve the rebel states borders into Federal Territories, hang all rebel political leaders and put all military officers above Lt. in front of the firing squad. Instead, you let them live and fester, even naming military bases, ships and tanks after them.

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

If we had done to the south after the civil war what the world did to Germany after world war 2, I firmly believe we would be in a much better place.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (45 children)

Let's do a quick thought experiment and say there was an actual legal framework for states to leave the union. How do Republicans think that would go? Under no circumstances would any major city in the south go along with leaving. Republicans states are far more purple than elections would suggest due to voter suppression, election fraud, and gerrymandering. So in reality the confederate areas would just be poor rural areas. Add in the fact that the US holds the keys to all the military equipment and weapons, the confederate areas would turn into a lawless hell scape over night. And without nuclear weapons and no international agreements for defense, I'm sure Mexico and Cuba would love to reclaim some of their lost territory.

I can go on. But the main reason these idiots keep bringing this up is to suggest violence into getting their way. It's not even a viable option to even consider for them. The situation I made is a best case scenario for them to. If they tried to violently leave the union it would be couple million good old boys in trucks up against jets and tanks.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I feel like logistically it would make Brexit look like the Velvet Revolution breakup of Czechoslovakia. Clusterfuck doesn't even begin to describe it. We are sort of stuck with each other like a crabby old married couple that hates each other but they just don't really have any options so they stick together barely speaking except saying fuck you to each other when they pass in the hallway.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then blue states can stop funding red states and the red states will crumble even further.

Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140304131138/http://fuckthesouth.com/

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[–] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The 14th amendment prohibits her from serving in congress. Period. Unequivocally. Are we going to start enforcing laws or not?

[–] SevFTW@feddit.de 32 points 1 year ago

PaRtY oF LaW anD oRDeR

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I might be in the minority, but I say let 'em go: provided they take a proportional amount of the US debt with them, and give back all the military assets that the rest of the country bought. They can re-staff all those military bases they named after Confederates on their own dime, while paying back debt and funding their own Social Security.

I bet once they actually get presented the budget for their ideas, all of a sudden they decide they like the Blue states (and their tax base) a lot more than they used to.

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[–] Bwaz@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Oh, wow. Texas, Missouri, Alabama, etc. become not our problem anymore? Gimme a petition to sign!

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This woman needs to secede from my internet.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Sounds like she should be removed from Congress.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

She's a traitor. Traitors get death penalty. --MGT

[–] darctones@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

America’s power is that we are one nation with access to two oceans and friendly neighbors. Our greatest threat is from within.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide.

--Abraham Lincoln

[–] clutchmatic@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

She and similar politicians spreading such messages should be stripped out of US citizenship

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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 45 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The only reason I'm not an advocate for this is because this would mean abandoning LGBT people, minorities, and women in red states.

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Breaking News: MTG says controversial shit to stay in the news cycle.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sure, but at what point do we say "this is treason" and do something about it?

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (14 children)

We look at the definition of treason in the Constitution, conclude that unless we can prove she’s acting on behalf of a foreign power, it isn’t treason, call it sedition, which it clearly IS, and go from there.

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[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

She should still be raving and slurring her words relatively harmlessly in some dive bar, but nooooooo...Georgia had to go and get her elected.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ahh. Another Republican advocating sedition.

Lock her up!

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair, we should have locked her up already for her actions on Jan 6th and her continued obstruction of justice.

No idea why we haven't.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She does know how that ended for Georgia, specifically, last time, doesn't she?

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She doesn't know much, and you can't make her.

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[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish she would secede from the planet.

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[–] elrik@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

It's almost as if she has no interest in preserving the strength of our union. I wonder who that really benefits...

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cut off from the federal teat that they suck on, they wouldn't last a month.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

Oh please do! It’ll be an absolute joy to watch the red states bend over backwards trying to execute the mental gymnastics it will take to explain to their loyalist voter base- why they are all bankrupt now.

[–] PlatypusXray@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

Russian asset doing russian asset things

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

No, you traitorous shit hag, you can't. You already lost one war and one SCOTUS case saying so.

[–] notatoad@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

yessss. do it. pleeeeease peel off some republican senate seats

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

A statement like this should get you instantly booted out of Congress

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

Is this not sedition?

[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She will say anything to stay in the news. Her big mouth, and the media's reporting on it, is the only way she remains relevant.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Who cares what this dumbass wants? She should be getting asked why she was for the coup.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Well since seceding from the union worked out so great the last time....

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 year ago

"please do anything that helps my russian bosses!! im desperate!"

  • mtg
[–] galaxies_collide@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

PLEASE DO! And say goodbye to all your federal benefits. Good riddance.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

You know, for claiming to be patriots they sure seem to hate the US.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those states that consistently take but not contribute to the union, tax wise, should secede.

Lol, I'd love to see them do that and drop to poverty levels way below that of a South America country.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

She should consider fucking herself in the ass with a cactus.

[–] KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

She's right. Blue states should consider it. I don't think blue staters in these comments realize how close abortion is to being illegal nationwide.

"Roe v. Wade will never be overturned, that'll turn the country into a warzone!!"

"States will never actually ban abortion, that'll turn states into warzones!!"

Yet here we are.

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