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[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it was just a contrivance to both make a sport for the books while also allowing the Main Character to automatically be the most important person all the time (like basically everything else in the books).

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah the truth is that Harry is more or less completely useless at anything other than quidditch in the books. He's just a symbol that actually talented people rally around

[–] rob64@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Functionally, he's good at being reliably moral. See: the mirror of erised, the second GoF task, going willingly to his death.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reliably moral by traditional wizarding standards*. Hermione is more reliably moral by standards external to the wizarding world.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hermione blackmailed a journalist and kept her in a jar for several weeks. The following year she cursed a fellow student and left them permanently disfigured. I'm not sure that I would consider her more reliably moral... a good person overall, but with flaws.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Idk, just because she doesn't turn into a human welcome mat doesn't make her immoral. And Rita is as much a journalist as anyone on Fox News is, which is to say, not at all. Hermione recognized that nobody would do anything about Rita spreading her harmful bullshit and took direct, decisive action.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's kind of a dick though...

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Fame went to his head for a bit there, then he got pissed that everyone had opinions about him....kinda like a certain author I know of...

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reading Enders Game after reading the Harry Potter series felt like those were two opposite ends of the spectrum.

Harry was special because fate made him special and all things revolved around him regardless of his actions.

Ender was special because the author said he was the smartest kid in the room and all things he did worked because if it didn’t work, then he wouldn’t be the smartest.

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

With both written by hateful, vitriolic turds.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago

Man, fuck that main character. He owned a slave and became a cop.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be worth 5 points (half a goal, so it functions as a tiebreaker), but still end the game when caught. That way, the team in the lead is trying to catch it, and the team that's behind is trying to prevent the opposing seeker from catching it to buy time to close the gap. It's still important that way, you can't win the game without it, but the rest of the team is also contributing.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Plus, when there are positions on the team whose entire goal it is to beat the shit out of the other team, it makes sense that you'd want to split their focus between scoring points or ending the game. As-is, there's no reason a beater should be trying to do anything other than beat the shit out of the opposing seeker.

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Infynis@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They need to up the intelligence on the snitch. Make it so hard to catch that it hardly ever happens. Seekers now spend most of their time as normal players, while keeping an eye out for the snitch, then darting away every once in a while for a catch attempt

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was my take when watching the movies (never read the books). I figured the snitch was near to impossible but Harry just had main character syndrome, being able to actually see the snitch.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah harry is just cracked at the game for no particular reason (never even flew before he went to Hogwarts)... they allude to some quidditch games lasting days, at which point 150 points isn't a big deal anymore.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

never even flew before he went to Hogwarts

Or so he thought. We later find out that Sirius sent him a toy practice broom for his first birthday. Harry could have had three months of practice at a very impressionable age, which could account for some of his "immediate talent" when he gets to Hogwarts.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"I road a tricycle for a handful of months when I was one years old and then moved to a country that outlawed bikes until I was 10. Of course I'm qualified for the men's varsity cycling team. Yes, I'm still ten. So what?"

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Another way to balance would be to simply make it not an instant win. Instead it's just worth a large amount of points, but the other team could still win if they score enough before the game ends.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's technically not an instant win, just a ton of points and an instant end to the game. In a lopsided enough match a team could catch it and still lose.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In a lopsided enough match a team could catch it and still lose.

That literally happens in the books

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not an instant win. It's already 150 points and an instant end to the game. It usually happens that whoever catches the snitch wins, but not always. See: Quidditch world cup in Book 4 of the series.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is also dumb because he caught the snitch, causing his team to lose the game.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that was dumb. The rationale in the book was his team was getting clobbered and he just wanted to end it on his terms, but at that moment his team was only down 160 points! They were perfectly capable of scoring ONE more goal, after which if he caught it it would go to overtime or sudden death or whatever they do in the quidditch world cup when it's tied.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine catching the snitch when you're 160 points behind by mistake. It just wouldn't ever happen.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Imagine doing it on purpose in the World Cup...

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Goes well with the rest of the writing.