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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 124 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Bozos

They have been part of the core Cyberpunk TTRPG rulebook since the 1980's.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 70 points 4 months ago

It seems that,

  1. The original OP did zero research
  2. Pondsmith is a prophet
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago
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[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 months ago

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Bozos

They have been part of the core Cyberpunk TTRPG rulebook since the 1980's.

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[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Also William Gibson wrote about foiling facial recognition with makeup over thirty years ago.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Also i think in Spook Country (but i'm not sure) he makes them use a t-shirt with an "ugly face" which is designed to disable facial recognition.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Also Judge Dredd has clown folk who are essentially juggalos.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

Some years ago, Pussy Riot put out information on how to use Makeup to confound face detection algorithms.

On an unrelated note: This is probably going to be blocked in ML because I used the word "pussy". I wonder why that instance has a problem with me mentioning that word. Could it be perhaps the name of a feminist anarchist group activity resisting domestic Russian oppression? No, I'm sure that's a coincidence.

Edit: Ty to everyone who helped correct my misunderstanding. The feedback has been informative, but I'll leave my comment as-is so people reading have context incase they also have misconceptions.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I'm on ML and can read your comment without a problem. Let's see if I can type it.

Pussy Riot

EDIT: No problem there.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 months ago

I'm surprised! Good to know, ty.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

AFAIK .ml doesn’t automatically block comments from other instances containing slurs, they only automatically block slurs from being posted by their own users.

[–] Monstera@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think it's being rendered to us, let me test one that I know is on the filter:

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so it auto replaces with an italicized removed, what a bunc of b1t ches

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stop trying to make removed happen

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[–] lauha@lemmy.one 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Turns out animals' camouflage including background matching, disruptive coloration, shadow elimination, counter shading, counter illumination and others are there to prevent optical recognition.

Who would have thunk.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

What we didn't know was that Zebras evolved to defeat AI comera recognition.

[–] Sebbe@lemmy.sebbem.se 8 points 4 months ago

New studies indicate face paint makes your face look a bit different.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well that's why they set up a ministry to manage the silly walks, to make sure they complied with gait recognition before they were used.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bonus: Also helps avoid detection by sandworms.

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[–] dojan@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure this could be negated with flowy clothing that contains adversarial patterns. At least for a while.

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[–] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I met a juggalo once and he was a racist Trump supporter who steal scrap metal from construction sites for meth money.

[–] ZeroCool@vger.social 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

That sucks. I worked with a few when I was younger and knew a couple others in high school too, and my experience was the opposite. They weren't exactly Rhodes scholars lol, but they were open-minded, kind, and dependable colleagues. Juggalos have a reputation for being trashy, and it's something they proudly embrace, but I've found them to be generally harmless. Unfortuantely, I think just about every fan base these days has to deal with its share of racist Trump supporters who steal scrap metal from construction sites for meth money...

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

My buddy and I were just talking about this. Juggalos get a lot of shit, but my experience is that they are one of the most accepting groups around. It doesn't matter if you're a PhD or are stealing copper out of abandoned houses, if you show up with some clown makeup and fire poi, juggalos are down to clown.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

all I know about juggalos is that magnet meme and this episode of tv

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Chiming in with another juggalo friend who was an incredibly good hearted person. Ended up going to jail for "assaulting an officer" by trying to pull a cop off of someone during the George Floyd protests. I lost touch after that.

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[–] Yggnar@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

I mean it's close. The Cyberpunk ttrpg was released in '88 and ICP's first album dropped in '89.

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[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

As an enjoyer of most of icp, this makes me laugh.

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[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bring back the Juggalos! I've been saying it for years. We need them now more than ever.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's nice being able to see people talk about icp like this thread without being nasty about it tbh

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of the music, but I'd rather be surrounded by authentically deranged weirdos than an endless sea of yuppies.

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[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Love the worst band in the world, fam.

If nothing else, they're an inspiration for just doing your own thing artistically. Fuck the critics, just make some shit you're passionate about, make it available to find its audience, and connect/bring in other folks who want to do the same.

IMO, they created/'popularized' an entire genre of music, and some of it's better than what they put out (for example, I like Twiztid more - but they wouldn't be what they are if it wasn't for ICP and Psychopathic Records)

Edit: For those who need a pick me up going into work tomorrow, a little MMFCL for ya.

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[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Around where I am you don't see them much anymore. I think between the Fentanyl and the COVID they got hit hard.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Incoming novel featuring Dazzle camo face paint

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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Abracadabra boom shacka dae

I'm Violent J, and I'm back like a vertebrae

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[–] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not doing facial recognition though, that's a reverse image lookup. It's a lot easier to find an exact match for a photo.

[–] ZeroCool@vger.social 38 points 4 months ago

Shhhh they think they’ve outsmarted the shitpost. Let’s just let ‘em have this one. They could probably use the win.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Exploitable

Replace top clown with normal person to show it finding that Juggalo

(Apparently that’s Violent J, next to his buddy… Shaggy 2 Dope)

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

The Machine can never take our Fago. Woop woop.

[–] don@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Huh, the tweet the article referenced is five years old, I wonder if there’s been any advancement in facial recognition in that regard

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago

Last I heard, the CCP did a bit of social engineering and got a load of TikTokkers to post videos in juggalo makeup in order to retrain their facial recognition software.

I don't recall if it was successful, but it happened.

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