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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 115 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Wow US,

WTF are you doing.

You were founded on the idea that no one is above the law. That's why you tossed aside the monarchy.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 83 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like the wrong party has been hoarding weapons.

Jesus, this is bleak. In a week they've straight-up legalized giving gifts to officials as an overt gratuity and declared Presidents immune from the law.

Part of me wants to see the current President take advantage of this moment to forcibly install a Court that will quickly overturn these decisions and return us to sanity.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 4 months ago

They made this decision knowing full well Biden is too spineless and stuck in the eighties to do it.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh no o was sleeping on the gifts one, what happened there?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They literally ruled that interested parties can pay a gratituity to officials and politicians, so long as the official act they're paying for occurs before payment.

That's not some pessimistic reading of the case. It's not subtle at all in it's intention to legalize bribery at the federal level.

The case at hand was a mayor that gave a contract to a waste disposal company worth about a million dollars overtly in exchange for them paying him $15,000 after the contract was awarded.

He was prosecuted for official corruption and bribery, and the Supreme Court threw it out because he was paid after the corrupt act and not before.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

What a shithole. Impeachment is sounding real good…

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, that's it. They ruled it A OK to accept gifts for favors.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Who? Clearance? Lmao of course they did. ‘Is it ok we give you things?’ ‘Of course!’ Fuck this shit

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

An excellent point.

AN EXCELLENT POINT.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same as average Germans in 1900 or 1930; just barely scraping by or worse, with not actual representation in the decisions being made by traitors behind closed doors.

We will be hated and abused just as much as anyone. I hope the coming shift in relevant world powers will do a better job. This will soon be the new Italian peninsula of Rome. People are too stupid here to realize that the emperors of Rome were due to the consolidation of wealth. It resulted in massive civil wars and the eventual export of all Roman wealth to Constantinople. The USA will be the Italian peninsula of the late Roman era.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Ok Canada, it's your time to shine, don't fuck this - oh god, Pollieviere

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's fine. We have an 81-year-old who jumps from his strongest issue — abortion — to his weakest issue — immigration mid-sentence who will save us from this downward spiral into fascism.

I'm told that this is the best we've got.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Yeap, sounds about right!

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago (4 children)

We are in the midst of a decades long coup.

Nobody gives a shit because people no longer have the ability to percieve things happening at that time scale.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

Fox News worked out great. These dumbshit Americans believe anything if they see it on tv.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Strong "frog in water being slowly brought to boiling" vibes :(

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

It's not that they "no longer have the ability." Most people have never been able to comprehend things on that time scale when it's happening in real-time. It's only after the fact that people are able to look back and see clear signs and the early groundwork being laid.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This been in the making for last 50 years. It finally coming to frustrations.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Where is the next Smedley Butler when we need him? The guy was a true hero.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 70 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the interest of national security against threats foreign and domestic Biden should deport the conservative justices and the orange turd to Antarctica.

[–] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nah, send them adrift in international waters. Let them find a new home. Don’t ruin Antarctica.

These’s legitimately important science happening there, and that’s way too much hot air to add to such a fragile environment.

ETA: maybe send them to Cuba. They’d hate that.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nominate the six judges to lower court positions

The constitution only says that being a federal judge is permanent, not necessarily being a justice.

I think this would absolutely be the play to burn the bridges with the obstruction caucus among the senate dems, just hit them with the full weight of that bully pulpit devil may care.

These judges have gone rogue and it is absolutely worth making Joe Manchin mad to remind the courts they're servants of the people.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It would go to the Supreme Court to rule whether that is a legit thing to do 😭

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

“John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.”

Marbury v Madison is how the courts gave themselves the right of judicial review, and everyone just kinda agreed. And they just gutted separated powers.

The Robert’s court has destroyed its legitimacy, both in opinion and ethics. It’s time to clean house, and fix the top court.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Not really, I'm pretty sure laws about the courts are necessarily part of the exemption clause, because why should the people a rule is being written to correct the behavior of get to just say no to the new rule?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Impeach Thomas for undue influence and seditious activity. Same for Alito. Boof for perjury, not sure what to do with Gorsuch and The Handmaiden yet.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Innocent until proven guilty; if Gorsuch and Barrett suck but haven't done anything objectively, legally wrong then we need to give them a pass for now. Otherwise, it delegitimizes the very legitimate cases against Thomas and Alito. I think Kavanaugh has worse skeletons than perjury to go after. He had mountains of debt that conveniently vanished right around the time he was nominated, and I can't definitively say that that's evidence that he was bought and paid for but I can tell you that if he were bought and paid for that this is one of only a few avenues that it would happen through. He absolutely should not have been confirmed and there should've already been an investigation into whether he's beholden to anybody due to financial insecurity. It's why you get a credit check in addition to a background check before you can have any kind of security clearance. After all, we wouldn't want to have anybody stealing and selling classified documents and national security secrets, would we? 🙃

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Barrett has been only real terrible, not the ultra-terrible i expected. Gorsuch’s seat is stolen, but I guess that’s not his fault as such. Let’s go with the plan as-stated.

How’s that trebuchet-into-the-sun going? That ready yet?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 months ago

I hear Boeing has some spacecraft now that totally works.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If the goal is to slowly degrade our democracy to nothing we did a great job holding out against all odds this last 8 years. If tomorrow everyone wants to wake up and do something about it, I'm with ya.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"He has control of the senate and the courts"

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

Holy shit. We gotta get Hayden Christensen, stat!

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Peaceful Protesting Only Works for So Long

[–] abracaDavid 15 points 4 months ago

When the laws are unjust, it's time to break them.

Fuck all of this. We didn't vote for these ghouls, and now they are making giant, sweeping, life-changing laws.

I think that it's our civic duty to rebel.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 months ago

So the NY judge should put him in prison, in gen pop.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You ever feel like the dems don't pack the court not because they want "the moral highroad", but because they want the conservative rulings while crying victim?

Because it feels like it sometimes

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think Clinton’s charge to single-payer was a nightmare that anyone who remembers it doesn’t want to repeat. Expanding the court will be like that. Hopefully all the republican-lite lifers will give way to proper progressives, uh, quickly.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Not being willing to break things is what got Dems into this position in the first place.

I agree, anything we do - they will do worse - unencumbered by ethics or morals.

We would have to shut the door behind us. Sounds shitty, but that's what project 2025 is going to do for Republicans.

There will be no undoing of whatever happens whenever the next Republican becomes president. This is the last chance for politics to save us from that reality. We can sacrifice a few longstanding norms, knowing the risks. Or we can watch Republicans shatter all norms including the few we were trying to protect.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Hopefully. Would be nice to have an actually left wing Dem party

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Start your own party. Start small: county commissions, sheriffs, and the like in low-population counties. Build a deep bench of people who have experience in legislative, executive, and judicial positions. Make the core principles about workers rights and make sure constituents are holding elected officials accountable to those principles.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Would be nice except you won't have the millions of dollars in backing that the teabaggers did.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

We’re called The SexyTimes FlagHavers Party, running for county commission, sheriff, and the like. Donations are tax-deductible. Damn glad to meet ya.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] abracaDavid 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Why isn't the DNC saying or doing anything about this?

They have utterly and completely failed us. They are complicit.

They don't care because this benefits the DNC as well.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

they don't care about winning. never did. that's about it.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Well said my young Padawan