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Also docked to the space station is SpaceX’s Crew Dragon capsule that ferried four astronauts to the ISS in March, and a Russian Soyuz capsule that delivered three others in September. Stich acknowledged that at least one of those vehicles could provide an alternative ride home for Wilmore and Williams.

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[–] context@hexbear.net 107 points 4 months ago (6 children)

i keep thinking about @happybadger's (probably tongue-in-cheek) theory that 9/11 was actually 4 unrelated boeing aircraft failures and the whole "terrorist" narrative was a coverup carried out with the cooperation of the bush administration to justify the invasions of afghanistan and iraq. 9/11 wasn't an inside job, it wasn't even an outside job. it was corporate negligence and malfeasance, a spectacular coincidence, and naked political opportunism combined into a mass hallucination with horrifying and deadly consequences, from which we've collectively yet to awaken.

obviously that's not true, of course. obviously. but when i read stories like this i do start to wonder...

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

that just sounds like a Coen Brother's movie.

[–] context@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's all set in the same heavily stylized version of new york city as the hudsucker proxy

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago

Remember when ISIS took credit for the Vegas shooting? Imagine if the US just went with the narrative and ISIS commanders become concerned because now they have no choice but to keep up the farce or else they lose face lol

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

There was that plane that crashed in the Far Rockaways like a month after 9/11. If the circumstances of that crash had been slightly different, veered more towards a denser neighborhood, yeah it would’ve a 9/11 of negligence.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

That would be a plot twist on par with One Piece. If that's the case and we, as an audience, had to learn a bunch of class consciousness for it to make sense then that's good writing. If, then, JFK were the victim of a negligent shampoo company, then I would spend the rest of my life curating and teaching American history so it can be told in the same order I learned it.

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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know the thing about conspiracies is that they often underestimate just how bad the real world actualy is.

So forget 9/11, current year American aviation is going through a severe crisis, Blancolirio posted about this recently covering the recent close calls.

So its not like its impossible to have multiple failures and a massive coverup, its just that these failures would have been happening for months before and probably after 9/11.

In the current situation though, its literally a miracle there was no major incident so far, ignoring the Boeing stuff obviously.

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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's the simplest explanation and therefore Occam's Razor says it's true.

[–] context@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

exactly! the conventional narrative posits that nineteen hijackers are responsible, and the "inside job" narrative posits that the entire bush administration was in on it. the beauty of this parsimonious theory is that it only posits four failures in boeing aircraft, a highly plausible scenario to begin with.

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 86 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I'd trust a Soyuz with my life over any privately made corner cutting spacecraft any day, fuck that. Outsourcing spaceflight to the private sector always seemed like asking for all sorts of trouble.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Soyuz's design is good, including the Soyuz-2 carrier rocket, the crew vehicle called Soyuz, and the Soyuz-derived uncrewed cargo vehicle called Progress. But there have been major quality control issues over the past decade on all three. Propellant leaks, coolant leaks, a failed booster that caused an in-flight abort of a crew flight, holes in vehicles, all sorts of issues. And Salyut-derived ISS modules have had their own issues, such as Nauka's uncontrolled thruster firing after docking to the ISS which sent the whole station into an uncontrolled slow spin until it ran out of thruster fuel.

I respect the work of Chief Designer and his colleagues during the USSR era but I have little faith in Roscosmos' QA.

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[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago

Cutting-corner technology kelly

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are claustrophobic as shit, but they seem to have gotten the kinks out 50+ years ago. I wonder if the successor is gonna be just as reliable

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Octavia Butler was a prophet

[–] context@hexbear.net 50 points 4 months ago (3 children)

cereal1 parable of the sower was written over 30 years ago before widespread adoption of the internet and other major technological innovations and social changes. how much could she really have gotten right?

Beginning in 2024, when society in the United States has grown unstable due to climate change, growing wealth inequality, and corporate greed, Parable of the Sower takes the form of a journal kept by Lauren Oya Olamina, an African American teenager.

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[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Listen to the interview where she just took what all her teacher friends were telling her in the 1990s and she just extrapolated it all! I find it really sad that she gave up on Parable of the Trickster cause she realized how difficult living in space actually was.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago

I loved those two books, even though they're very emotionally hard to read.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

In the book NASA has a host of issues with a mars mission including an astronaut dying but in the timeline of the book it basically gets sold for parts and privatized.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

why would anyone trust the private sector with space stuff? neoliberal rot

[–] someone@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The dirty secret of US spaceflight is that it was always private. NASA has never built a rocket that can go to orbit, or orbital crew vehicles. It's all been private contractors, ever since the pre-NASA NACA days.

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[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remember the myths about stranded Soviet cosmonauts and them being equipped with cyanide capsules in case they’re stuck? Wonder if we’ll see that myth manifest to reality with americans.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

It's always projection.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

putin-wink You know you had a good thing going with Soyuz...

Seriously send them home on another ship and send the Broking down empty. Yes optics bad but better than risking killing someone because of hubris.

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Remember in The Martian when China helps save the American astronaut from certain death, thus bringing the entire world closer together? That was cool.

Anyway, sure is a shame these astronauts will die up there.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Starliner is approved to stay docked to the ISS for 45 days - which would be July 21 - or up to 90 days using various backup systems and depending largely on the health of its lithium ion batteries, which have caused concerns in the past.

sounds like its more than just the 2 are at risk by leaving it docked, too.

A lithium battery fire on the ISS would have to be one of the absolute worst nightmare scenarios

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago

Nobody is Boeing home.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

Looks like we gotta suicide another Boeing whistle blower... This time the target is some astronauts. dennis-stare

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago

If it's Boeing, I ain't going (home).

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Going to have to execute a lot more whistleblowers over this one.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I wonder at what point the astronauts are just gonna be like "fuck it let's roll the dice in your faulty spaceship" because the alternative is dying in space

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago

The alternative is not dying in space, it's riding down on a Russian craft.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ISS thankfully can house non Boeing spacecraft so they’ll be fine. The ISS should ban Boeing imo otherwise it’ll end up like the scene from Interstellar when the spacecraft explodes.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Was that interstellar or the other astronaut one that came out around the same time

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That was Gravity.

Um ackshually you can't get from Hubble to the ISS on MMU jets.

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

where we're Boeing, we won't need eyes to see

[–] buh@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

HAL 9000 but it’s the Boeing CEO

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[–] arymandias@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

They are not stuck, they’re just having so much fun they decided to stay a little longer.

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Blown away that somehow melon-musk didn't have this happen

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

They saw the temps down on Earth

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 4 months ago

We should just let the free market decide

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Indefinitely stranded in outer space.

That is horrifying, may they come home safely.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

they aren't stranded, except by boeing/nasa's pride

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