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[–] abrahambelch@programming.dev 154 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

Don't make the same mistake as our generation and fall for TikTok, Instagram and that shit.

Almost everything is better without it, from concerts to weekend trips to relationships.

[–] pepperonisalami@sh.itjust.works 68 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's super sad to see. We used to complain about kids being fed digital "contents" as pacifiers, but now I constantly see older people super fixated with their phone watching tiktok videos. 😔

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Computers and their interfaces? Way beyond the familiarity of older folks. TikTok? That’s just rapid-fire TV. That’s channel surfing where every flip is a reward. That’s gambling and standup combined.

It’s kind of insidious.

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[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 months ago

I think that advice is already coming too late

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Are you kidding? The 40-50 generation invented falling for stupidity of social media. Talk to 60-70 gen instead.

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[–] OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca 115 points 4 months ago (4 children)

There's no shame in changing your mind, there is no shame in needing help, there is no shame in self improvement, try to love yourself as a whole and work towards changing the things you don't love.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That changing your mind is so key. Often times people attach personal value to opinions as though they're related.

The ego gets involved when it should fuck right off.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just because you don't understand something within the first 5 seconds doesn't mean it's stupid.

Also information changes on a daily basis. Just because someone gave you different information than what you were taught doesn't mean they were taught wrong. Look it up.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 39 points 4 months ago (6 children)

As a 30+ person, this hits true. I heard my first friend say "the crap music these kids are listening to". Like dude, have just some self awareness, remember our parents saying green day and blink -182 were crap.

I would add to this that we don't need to understand something for there to be value to others. There are trends I don't understand, like dancing on tiktok, but it apparently brings the youths joy so have at it.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

As a 40+ person, I strongly agree with my young colleague here.

Listen to what you want, kids. Enjoy it. And don't let anyone tell you you're wrong about it.

As Common once put it, "If I don't like it, I don't like it, that don't mean that I'm hatin'."

[–] MidnightBanjo@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Loving this chain. Also over 30. I get frustrated that what older generations used to spout about Millenials like me (lazy, don’t want to work, etc) gets spouted by my generation to gen z.

I’ve seen some Gen Z kids do some bad things, but I’ve also seen them do amazing things my generation would not have done.

As far as music, I love all the variety there is and all the mediums to listen to it now.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Burnout is real. Step back for a bit and return rested, instead of abandoning the fight for justice entirely. Taking breaks is just as important as being active.

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[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Middle class people often think that they’re barely getting by but forget that they live larger and more luxurious than necessary.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah but the theft of wealth from the middle class doesn't become false because a few people live it large.

In fact, middle class is always encouraged to live it large by 24X7 marketing by corporations.

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course middle class people get stolen from, but they often use their job as an excuse not to organise which is lame imo because I know a lot of people who have it worse and put in way more effort in community building

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[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I've seen this play out first hand with people gradually climbing up the socioeconomic ladder as they reach middle age. They forget how things were at the lower middle class compared to the upper middle or even proper upper class.

It gets hard to talk about these days with the social media bullshit muddying up discourse. Because people start seeing red at the mere idea of broaching this topic.

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 months ago

Children (be they your own or unrelated children you have responsibility for) are people, not property or pets or whatever. Treat them as such. They're just people with less experience and more vulnerability.

[–] Zeke@fedia.io 40 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I may be 32, but I can throw in my own thoughts here. Stop paying attention to "societal norms". Societal norms are just there to control people. Do what you love. Watch cartoons and listen to whatever music you want to. You don't have to be an adult at all times. Take a break once in a while.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Considering the vast majority of people that walk around naked in the public locker room without an ounce of shame are people over 50 or over 60, I find this comment has got it backwards. There seems to be a universal constant that the older you get, the less you care about what other people think. I know I have experienced this myself, and most older people I ask tend to agree vehemently. It also explains why so many young people are embarrassed by their parents.

My advice to teens and people in their early twenties: don't worry what other people think of you. No one else is thinking about you much at all.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Hmm. So it's cool to buy the $900 Lego kits?

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

If you can afford it, sure. If it's money that should be spent elsewhere, you might want to rethink it.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why would we know this less than you?

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[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

30 is hurtling at me like a train, so may as well say my bit while I still qualify.

Learn to swallow your ego, and pride, and “seniority”. There’s plenty of people younger than you that are wildly intelligent and truly want to make the world a better place. Let those people take up space. Let young organizers spread their wings. Put your desires to be important aside and help empower the next generation. Feeling valued by the broader society and being allowed to be important can help young people participate and learn to socialize, especially with some of their formative years being ravaged by social media and Covid.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What about those of us who are older who were never given that chance when we were young?

We finally have a real opportunity and its our time to step aside?

Cool, cool, so the Boomers never let us have a chance at anything and now that they are all finally fucking dying, the next generation is like "we know you never actually got a chance but get the fuck out our way."

That being said, there's plenty of smart and capable youth out there who deserve a chance, it just stinks to be part of a lost generation that never got one.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think the point of the comment you replied to was to share space and allow the younger generation to flourish in ways that our generation never did. Break the cycle. This doesn't mean sacrificing yourself for younger people, the world is big enough for all of us.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Cheers, that's hopefully the way we can make it work.

If there's one thing that often bugs me about my peers, it's the unwillingness to learn from someone younger than you. Plenty of young people know all kinds of shit I've never known and they grew up in a world with access to more accurate information and education, so things I was taught in my childhood may be wrong.

For example, since I don't have kids of my own, until recently I was totally unaware that there was a chickenpox vaccine. I was one of the last generations of 'chicken pox parties' where they just tried to get entire classes of kids to get it all at once so they wouldn't get it at a more dangerous age.

Young people will almost always have access to new and useful information we may not.

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Don't be afraid of healthy change and always admit fault.

While some of the shit coming out in our current generation can be stupid or superfluous always take it in context and see how it could be used to better your life.

Ex. Increase in mental health awareness recontexualizes your childhood.

Also listening. Even if the shit coming out of your child's/younger coworker mouth is some bonkers shit at least listen to them without judgement. Will make any criticism that much better received

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If something or someone makes you feel bad, get it or them out of your life.

Find contentment within yourself if you want a healthy relationship.

Let go of things and don't let your ego control you.

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Guys, younger than 30 giving tipps to older than 30. Younger to older.

Why is everyone giving relationship advice as if it were the reverse?

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You don't have to have children, don't feel pressured by friends & family.

You don't need to be in a relationship, don't feel pressured by friends & family.

Go travel. See things, eat food, drink wine, enjoy yourself.

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[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

this was an interesting thought, OP. a shame nobody seems to have understood the assignment

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I just turned 30 and I am pretty sure a woman is not worth it if she does not provide you peace at home and is constantly looking for drama and conflict. Spent my youth chasing lost causes

As a guy at least in my experience, whenever I leave home I am faced with constant criticism and I have come to the realization that I simply do not have the capacity for it at home as well

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 10 points 4 months ago

As a stone-age person on Lemmy (47) allow me a response please.

First of all, I agree with you. Spent my 20s going through the motions thinking “maybe I just won’t meet someone I can bear to be with in the long term”.

And then I met her.

But in some respects she also met me at the right time. My assumptions about what I needed to help fix changed. My way of talking to women about their day, their challenges, their ambitions slowly morphed. So I don’t know if “she was perfect for me” or I had finally learnt how the differences between biological males and biological females drove how we communicated, what we needed and expected from each other, allowed me to finally commit to a long term relationship. We’ve been together for 17 years, married for 15. She drives me mad at times, and most days she wants to strangle me slowly, but despite all those small details, we also make each other laugh till we can’t breathe, we agree on almost everything (probably why the small disagreements become so “important”), we manage to parent four kids relatively well and when we finally find the time to have a day by ourselves, I am reminded why I fell in love with her.

I guess I’m trying to tell you that it might still happen to you too.

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[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Find a hobby that will allow you to keep your sanity during difficult times (unemployment and such) and after you retire.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

fucking relax, take a break sometimes, let time fly and just don't give a shit

"but I have responsibilities!!!!!!"

fuck em, put your legs up on the coffee table and I dunno... just stop and think about the minute shit around you. or reminisce. have you called jon recently? fuuuuck man you should hit him up. ohhh you can't arrange a date to meet? then fucking get that one day yourself to meet with him whenever he can

i see so many people over 30 be overworked, overstressed and downright complacent with all the shit they have to go through

just fuck it all for at least one day man, cause if that's what life's supposed to be then i don't wanna get old, just to be surrounded by those who are letting all of life's bullshit control every little fiber of them

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 12 points 4 months ago

This is interesting - not the advice itself, but for what it suggests under-30s think the over 30s are like, which is that they’re people who’ve not read nearly enough self-help books from the table at the front of the book store.

[–] Empathy@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The advice I'm most scared not to follow as I get older: don't dismiss everything that the younger generations say or do as being just a trend, and learn more about it.

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[–] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hahahaha me and my iced back hate you just a little rn

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I am 30 years old. Ask me anything.

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[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Living is an art. I grew up in a very rich neighborhood, and despite their wealth, many were troubled. Tons of high functioning drug addicts, alcoholics, Hoarders, narcissists, etc. it was kind of surreal.

We also had a family friend who was poor, not verge of homelessness poor, but impoverished relative to the town we lived. Like everyone, he had his fair share of problems, and worked a lot, but he was happy. Very few things deeply troubled him and he always maintained a calm and collected demeanor. Extremely intelligent too. When I was down, upset, angry, or outright furious, he was always there to impart his wisdom, and I am a better man for it.

Seemingly few people recognize the crucial art of living. Not to live without problems but live in spite of them. So many miserable, privileged people I've met in that town.

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