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Saw a comrade post this as a response in the Mousolini dunk thread, that become a dunk thread on an annoying lib calling us tankies lol.

Thought this was really insightful, and from a different angle than what i usually see as the rascist connotations of "tankie" and of western left anti-communism, and thought it deserved its own thread. Particularly, since the influx of western anti-cummunist takes we've been dealing with recently.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

@kr4ster@programming.dev

I saw you reported this with the reason: Hexbear. Do you know where you are or who you are reporting this to?.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The worst thing is that with how federation works, they're just creating more work for their own instances mods with bs reports, as they see them too. Poor mods at the programming Lemmy wondering wtf is going on here lol.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait for real????

michael-laugh reporting Hexbears for posting on Hexbear!

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The internet equivalent of Karens calling the cops on black people having a BBQ in the park.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Except when they do that the cops don't show up and ridicule them instead of arresting said black people.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mods calling out nonsense reports is amazing and I hope it never stops

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Now normally I think posting about reports is in bad form as they should be private to an extent but this was just too funny not to share.

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Triggered by our existence. This rules

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is a good fucking take and plays into the point I keep making of the nationalist/internationalist issue surrounding this mess. It definitely has a nationalist component I'm completely with @axont@hexbear.net on this.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I've been trying to see the term "tankie" as an obfuscated way of saying "traitor" recently. It's not a word that applies to people actually from socialist countries most of the time, it's what someone from the imperial core gets called if they express admiration for the scary foreign places.

Also hello everyone! Sorry I'm not used to attention like this thread lol

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I'd appreciate being called a traitor straight up so I can respond gigachad-hd

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tankie is just the new authoritarian, redfash or Stalinist. I think being called a patsoc is probably going to replace it sooner rather than later.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Tankie itself is decades old. It was initially used by British Trotskyites to refer to other British communists who were in favor of the USSR using tanks to quell the 1956 Hungarian uprising.

Personally I think tankie will just get replaced with being called a communist/commie/pinko again. I think we only have a few more years until western liberals realize they're not actually socialists and begin outright identifying as willing capitalist subjects on the side of imperialism.

Being called a communist will carry with it the implication that you're a traitor to western civilization or whatever. The nationalist brainwork will become explicit rather than hidden under layers.

Derogatory political terms don't like having nuance. Tankie is currently too nuanced. It's used to mean "I'm a socialist but not like those scary, other socialists who like bad countries like China." Derogatory political terms just want to mean "bad thing"

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is a better elaboration on that post I made on that 196 thread that got removed and I presume kicked off this whole discussion.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

It really feels like collectively we're heading towards a solution to this, bit by bit.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I'm sick of lemmy.world trying to act like they understand a global picture of the world. Fucking brainwash runs deep

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I wear tankie as a badge of honor honestly. If someone calls me a tankie it's usually because they're already owned and they've run out of steam. They call me a tankie because they've already lost. It's at that moment that they think they've taken back the upper hand but it's all a ruse. They fell for it. They left themselves open. And that's when you hit em with the PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] axont@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You shoulda been tagged. gaddafi-stern

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

There are already racialized versions of political slurs for Chinese and Russians. Anyone who professes a positive opinion of China, no matter how true or mild, is a "Wumao" and the same for Russia is a "Vatnik".

Both can also be "bots" because no human could ever think well of those places. Also probably projection for the fact that much of this sentiment is probably coming from a huge US astroturfing operation operating out of Elgin Airforce Base.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Excuse me, I believe the preferred nomenclature is "People of Tank".

[–] PeoplesRepublicOfNewEngland@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the venn diagram of internet armored vehicle enjoyers and NAFO idiots is basically a circle.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's not even get into warplane enjoyers...

[–] Pseudoplatanus22@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Depends on how many obnoxious Royal Navy stans you're prepared to deal with.