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I was one of those people. It seemed incredibly stupid to me.

I thought we’d fracture, and infighting would eat up our next three months. I thought it would squander our remaining chances. I thought the same people who didn’t want Biden also didn’t want Kamala, and I didn’t know of anyone else.

I thought it would open us up to litigation, and because I don’t trust our judicial branch, I thought that would let Republicans strangle a candidate in courts. Most importantly, I thought Republicans actually had a plan and a strategy.

I was very wrong and it doesn’t bother me at all to admit it. In fact, I’m relieved.

I will admit I was wrong.

At first I was like noooooo, then when he endorsed Kamala I was like, oh god nooooooo...but I'll eat my words. I'm excited and happy with the outcome so far and, regardless, was voting dem anyway.

Like, maybe I'm speaking too soon, but I almost feel...a modicum of hope again?

Okay, I rarely comment on political posts on Lemmy, because I value my time, and my sanity. And I agree with you. This is our best chance. But I just want to say that Kamala does not represent a way to defeat American fascism. She represents a way to buy some time until we can form a movement that goes so far beyond neo liberal policies it's unreal. It's still unlikely, but she's hopefully buying us 4 years.

Maybe I'm just being pedantic, but it genuinely worries me when people think that Kamala or really any major politician in the US can defeat fascism. Normal got us here, normal will send us right back.

Again, not trying to be an ass, and perhaps you also meant she buys us time, but this shit scares me. If she wins in November, and even I, as a filthy commie, I hope she does, it isn't a victory in the war against American fascism. It's a bandaid, a canteen of water, and a chance to regroup.

Yep. I was very wrong. I completely misread the pulse of the Democratic party.

I'm extremely happy to admit I was wrong. I did bitch and moan, but it didn't fracture the party at all.

Yeah, I really don't understand the people that were against Biden dropping out. It was so very obvious after that debate. Just no way he was going to beat that narrative.

I was absolutely baffled at how many downvotes I got for saying I didn’t think Biden had his head in the game after he was like “I’ll do my best but if I lose oh well 🤷‍♂️”. Like… holy fuck. That was perhaps the most catastrophically tone-deaf thing I’ve ever heard an otherwise fairly skilled politician say - and I’ve heard a LOT of politicians say a LOT of stupid things.

Hey, stop focusing so much on "I told ya so" to people who are definitely on your side. I was torn on it as well, but out of consideration for the potential impact being unknown. Hindsight is 20/20 and we're all better served by not gloating if we were right and instead focusing on the future path we are now on. Let's just keep it positive and build this victory through positivity instead of potential fractures with people who likely agree with you on the issues.

I don’t know about “all of Lemmy.”

After the debate, most of the top comments were pro-dropout.

I swapped from calling for Biden to stay to calling for Biden to go once sitting Congresscritters spoke out in public asking him to step down, since the main advantage of incumbency is supposed to be the ability to preserve party unity, but I was still expecting a lot more "DEMS IN DISARRAY HOW CAN THEY EVER WIN" style narrative to take root. There's still time for me to be disappointed, but as of right now I'm pleasantly surprised.

I remember a week or two ago, the same crowd calling Biden to quit also bitch about how Harris would be a horrible replacement with absolutely zero chance gaining any support.

Not calling you out because I've been guilty of this before, but this is a great reason to vote in every election, local all the way up to presidential!

Not only will your vote have more impact in local elections (due to even worse turnout), but you know you won't be unfairly purged from voter rolls. Probably...

The cancel culture we should be worried about

North Carolina here. Voter registration is done automatically when you renew your vehicle registration.

I raised three Gen Z kids. This is 100% true.

"hey this went better than I expected and I'm glad that it happened" you just described me exactly lol. I figured Biden dropping out would be bad for our democracy and Trump would be more likely to win.

A day after he dropped out I knew I was wrong given the absolute excitement from pretty much everyone except Republicans, happy it happened now.

Me. I was one of those people.

Never been happier to have been wrong though

What's your level and class? We are looking for more healers.

People are like that sometimes.

Unless you want to take the conservative approach of attempting to eliminate anyone who stands against you, then you unfortunately have to learn to understand and work with these people. We do not exist on our own. We exist with many, many other people who have different views than our own, who react and think differently than we do.

Part of life is learning how to work with these people, how to get them to do what needs to be done. You can sit there and scream at them for being stupid or you can figure out how to get them to do what you want.