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Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.
"If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would've won!" -conservatives in five months
It's amusing you think Republicans will do anything but say the election was stolen by the left.
Yeah, it's actually not possible for me to imagine Republicans losing the presidency again without claiming fraud. Even if saying that directly stops playing as well, they will just move onto softer language about it. Like when they went from being directly racist to claiming all problems are certain immigrants' fault.
They will "just ask questions" about particular states' results. I don't think we will come back from that. It may even bleed over to Democrats saying it eventually, just because it's so established in the zeitgeist that it's possible, some lesser thinking Dems may run with it.
Notice how none of them hesitate to do this shit now. It's because they've started to internalize that democracy is bad because it doesn't give their party the advantages they feel entitled to.
They’ll do both
Vance brings no new votes to the table. He is really just there because Peter Thiel agreed to donate to the campaign if Trump made him VP. When Biden was still in, the GOP believed that the election was as good as won so they didn’t believe they need to appeal to anyone else. Now that Kamala is running, the initial reaction and polling is showing that this race isn’t going to be easy for the GOP and Vance looks like a shitty pick.
And JD Vance has earned all the hate MAGA is going to send his way. Bending the knee may give short term gain, but it will ultimately ruin your life and legacy, like a whole list of these lifelong Republicans. The Lindsay Graham's and Ted Cruz's who took Trump's abuse and just cowered like the pathetic people they are.
MAGA will be in the history books beside the confederates as the traitor party.
hilarious that vance wrote an entire book blaming poor mountain people for causing their own problems and not bootstraps-ing themselves out of despair (like he did, naturally), and is now saying that biden's america is 100% to blame for those exact same problems
not to mention all the gigabytes of trash he's talked about trump, whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory
whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory
😆 It's only 0600 here. I'm gonna call it a day after reading that so that I can end on a high note.
"Vance does worse in his home region at -16 points than he does in the average of all polls… So the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him even less than America likes him.”
— Polling analyst Harry Enten, on CNN
Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he'll be retained on the ticket.
Noooo we spent so much time and money messaging against him! That’s not fair!111!!
James Donald Bowman is his birth name. Tired of this ‘woke’ changing names agenda!
Wait.. so the Republican ticket is James Donald and Donald John? Those fucking nerds.
Let's not jump to conclusions until we get the couche's side of the story.
They needed a running mate with a name similar to Pence so that Demented Donald could remember it.
I do outside sales in Ohio and I'm on the road a lot
The amount of people who have Trump / Pence signs and have put white tape over the P and E to make a V and A is ... Surreal. Like why do you still have signs from an election 8 years ago? Their house is probably full of cats and hoard and bugs. Can't wait to get updated signs?
I mean, his last VP pick had lightning powers. This one fucks couches. That's a hell of a downgrade.
Poor JD, his grandma really did hate him for being a burdensome piece of shit.
And for what he did to her favorite sofa. He even took off the plastic cover - just raw digging it with no protection.
What are they talking about? Vance secures the couch fucker vote.
If you were an extreme project 2025 republican, Vance would have been the perfect candidate assuming that 1. The democrats would throw the election by running Biden with failing health. And 2. That Trump would die of a heart attack in a few years.
I legitimately can't think of another reason why they would have picked him. The Trump campaign and project 2025 were counting on both those facts being true.
It’s amazing how much Trump got played. The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history. It was all a show so people would demand Biden drop out before he actually dropped out.
And not only did Trump agree to it (cause his ego told him he would dominate), now he’s picked a god awful VP pick cause he thought he knew who his opponent was.
I love this but no way our Democrat leadership thought that far ahead.
Ha, yeah. I've been a registered Democrat since I was 18. No freaking way they tried at something so hard like that.
To be fair, for all we know you're 19.
The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
You are giving way to much credit to the capability of the democratic leadership.
I love that there's literally a video of Vance calling Trump a horrible person and they still picked him. Plus the whole couch-fucking thing. Good stuff.
Look at all those signs, maybe they can sue the GOP for a refund.
his previous VP was lame too, he wants the show all for himself
Vance has been so embroiled in gaffes, he hasn’t even really gotten to expound on any of his “new right” ideas, such as his phony brand of conservative economic populism, or creepy pronatalism, or terrifying techo-authoritarianism.
Trump’s campaign, however, released a statement doubling down on the former president’s increasingly unpopular pick.
“President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House,” said campaign spokesman Steven Cheung, according to Axios.
Phony, creepy, terrifying.
And Steven Cheung, you need to understand nobody represents trump who doesn't get shit on. Just saying. It's your future. Hopefully you can represent yourself at trial.