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[–] xyguy@startrek.website 60 points 3 months ago

Pretty much every OSHA rule came from some kind of death or dismemberment of they guy before you. As a wise foreman once said, "Better a pain in the ass than your ass in pain”

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think Osha fills a very important role.

Qatar didn't have any effective regulatory bodies during the Soccer World Cup and some of the top officials involved in to put the fatalities somewhere between four and five hundred.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a solution as old as humanity .... if work place problems cause people to die, the solution is simple .... get more cheap labour.

To the rich its an economic problem ... what's cheaper? Fixing an expensive problem or saving money by buying more cheap workers and not bother changing a thing.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

The counter move is also clear. When work is too cheap and causes people to die, kill the employer. That's when unions appear to keep both sides from dying.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately there’s also a bunch of loopholes, any business that’s small enough doesn’t need to report to OSHA except in specific circumstances, but how are they to know?

I think it’s under a dozen employees or something, so most small businesses avoid growing too large to avoid the oversight.

Roofing is a large one for this, they avoid the fall restraint/arrest requirements, it’s also why they are one of most dangerous trades…

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How did so many people die?

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Second class citizens with no worker protections of any sort whatsoever performing construction in one of the hottest places in the world.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

To add to this Qatar has some of the best 'insert stat here' because they only count Qatar citizens and it's basically impossible to be one unless you're born into it or marry into it iirc. They just don't count immigrants or anyone else in those stats and treat anyone not of Qatar blood like garbage. The Stat that comes to mind is poverty, iirc 0 percent of Qataris live in poverty because the government subsidizes them which sounds great on paper but when you look into it only 11 percent of their population is counted as Qatari and the rest are just cheap labor they exploit.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

OSHA violations are almost always the result of being underpaid and expected to do more work than possible if you follow the OHSA regulations.

[–] Timely_Jellyfish_2077@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why china is winning. No proper human safety, slavery, poor pay etc. Hence china is leading manufacturing sector.

[–] Incandemon@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago

Which I think its important to point out isn't an endorsement. It means that we in the west should be doing everything we can to enforce our saftey standards on products sold in our countries, and if that isn't possible then we should be bringing the manufacturing back onshore.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Don't worry, SCOTUS*, will abolish OSHA soon.

[–] Sho@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

"The secret...is crime"

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago
[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

OSHA? More like OSHIT