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Is Donald Trump really trying to get out of debating Kamala Harris again? Or is it the opposite?

On Thursday, it seemed like the dust had finally settled. “The debate about debates is over,” said Michael Tyler, the Harris campaign communications director, in a statement. “Donald Trump’s campaign accepted our proposal for three debates—two presidential and a vice presidential debate.”

“Assuming Donald Trump actually shows up on September 10 to debate Vice President Harris, then Governor Walz will see JD Vance on October 1 and the American people will have another opportunity to see the vice president and Donald Trump on the debate stage in October,” the Harris campaign continued.

But now, Trump’s team claims that the Democrat lied when she said the two sides reached a debate agreement. At the moment, there is only one confirmed debate between the presidential nominees, to be held September 10 by ABC News.

Nevertheless, the Trump campaign’s press secretary Karoline Leavitt told the Daily Caller Friday that Trump will be doing three debates and Vance will be doing two.

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[–] EndOfLine@lemm.ee 158 points 2 months ago (6 children)

That Trump campaign sounds like a well oiled machine.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 67 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well they vetted JD Vance so... maybe they should keep on truckin?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

I encourage them to keep that truck on that path. It may appear to be swerving like it's being driven by a duck on heroin, but that's just a cunning strategy, I'm sure.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What’s wild is coming out of the convention they certainly seemed like one. Talk about a textbook case of “house of cards”

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[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Does the machine spin like a laundry agitator?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oil? ..... I think the liquid they are covered in came from a golden shower.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

Trickle down in a nutshell.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

They spent all of the money on lawyers to defend his crimes.

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 103 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nevertheless, the Trump campaign’s press secretary Karoline Leavitt told the Daily Caller Friday that Trump will be doing three debates and Vance will be doing two.

I'd have sympathy for the people having to deal with trump's bullshit working for his campaign, but they're working for trump. Fully deserved.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Wait, hold up, why is Vance doing two?

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 42 points 2 months ago

I think they are getting riled by the "Trump/Vance are cowards" argument and this is there pathetic attempt to counter it: "Nuh uh, we actually wanted more debates!"

These people are such weird losers.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not quite an answer, but:

Vance, confusingly, proposed two vice presidential debates as opposed to the traditional one. One of his proposed dates is the same day Trump is due to be sentenced for his hush-money trial.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

No, that’s not what they said. They said Trump’s publicist told Daily Caller he’d be doing two.

Based on history, there is no way to predict reality from that statement.

[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 10 points 2 months ago

He's trying to pull a power move by not just simply accepting the invitation to the one debate. They feel like they need to one-up the offer by offering ANOTHER debate, on their terms this time!! It's childish

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 92 points 2 months ago (40 children)

I'm pissed that we're trapped with Trump for three fucking election cycles.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's like one of those shits where you keep wiping and it just doesn't go away

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s like I’m wiping a marker

[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Still poop. Still poop.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've been trapped with Trump since the fucking '80s. For young people today, it would be the equivalent of 40 years of Logan Paul, with him being President at the end of it.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It was funny when he complained that his campaign wasn't doing well here in New York City where he's from. Dude, we've been over your shit since before the TV shows when you were just another one of the scummy rich landlords none of us have ever liked.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So much worse than Logan Paul though.

[–] funkforager@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago

Three so far!

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hopefully they come out with an anti aging vaccine and that mother fucker refuses to take it and we don't have to see him ever again. Who am I kidding, he would be the first in line.

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[–] AtomicTacoSauce@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@fedia.io 29 points 2 months ago

This campaign has shown just how much of a little bitch that he is. Every time you turn around it's another example of him just whining like an entitled child instead of doing something about it like an adult. I know there's cognitive dissonance, but damn, it must be working overtime in a lot of Trump supporters.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

three debates—two presidential and a vice presidential debate.

Trump will be doing three debates and Vance will be doing two.

One of the VP debates is between Vance and Trump

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] casmael@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Congratulations on an absolutely outstanding image

[–] JackiesFridge@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

World's smallest cello

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Trump mentioned the award after he was introduced by one of his top patrons, Miriam Adelson, a heavy-handed Republican donor who became the richest Israeli in the world after her husband, billionaire Sheldon Adelson, died in 2021. The couple earned Trump’s favor after they funneled $25 million to Trump’s super PACs in 2016 and donated $5 million to his inauguration. That earned them a spot on the dais, just a few rows behind Jared Kushner, as Trump was sworn in. In 2018, their contributions effectively bought Mrs. Adelson the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and in 2019 influenced Trump to recognize Israel’s sovereignty in Golan Heights, an Israeli-occupied portion of southwest Syria that the religious state captured in 1967.

Four years later, the Adelsons eclipsed their previous spending on the pro-Israel politico with a $90 million donation, and gave $300 million to Republican-focused Senate and congressional Leadership Funds, outspending the next three donors combined, according to Intelligencer.

Now I finally have info about who this lady is, after seeing a number of headlines about the comments. She's some shithead Israeli right-wing billionaire asshole. Fucking piece of shit. No surprise there.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

When I see stuff like this all I can think is how crazy it is we'll look at "third world nations" and call them corrupt when we have stuff like this going on. This is just bribery but under a different name and with rules to only let the wealthy do it.

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

If you watch Veep, Sheldon Adelson was the “inspiration” for Sherman Tanz (read: is 100% a direct parody of).

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Actually, it's worse for Harris. Debating against someone with marshmallows in the mouth is a nightmare.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It only sounded like he had marshmallows in his mouth because ~~Twitt~~ I mean X has shitty enough tech that they couldn't support things. /s

Also, you're 100% right. Debating against someone like Trump is hard because the will spit out lies faster than you can debunk them.

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[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Ah, gaslighting himself now. Gotta love it

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Cry, bitch!

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

motherfucker YOU WANTED THESE DEBATES IN THE FIRST PLACE

[–] Ixoid@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Against Biden, sure. Trump's scared of seeming less intelligent than a black woman on a public stage. He'll find excuses to never debate Harris.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why does Harris even bother? Just do the one debate in September and be done with it, since the venue and format was already agreed on. Anything else, Trump is going to move to FOX and have it rigged. And it will just be Trump soundbites (more so that it already is.)

I really hope he doesn’t show up on Sep 10. Then Harris can have all the tv time for herself. And then she can refuse to do any other debates, simply stating Trump is unreliable and doesn’t show up therefore she won’t waste time scheduling any more.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hear he is feeling more targeted these days ;)

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I 'ear the same thing!

lol cry more

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know there was more than one agreed-upon debate. Fox is kind of a non-starter, but I only knew about one other, and I've been trying to keep up!

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