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[–] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Terrifying and irrational state enemies are evil-y mustering their forces... Anyway, that's why the highest levels of our government secretly formed a plan to literally nuke their countries.

Perfect framing, thank you

Mallory Stewart, the assistant secretary for arms control, deterrence and stability at the State Department, said in an interview that the Chinese government is “actively preventing us from having conversations about the risks.” Instead, she said, Beijing “seems to be taking a page out of Russia’s playbook that, until we address tensions and challenges in our bilateral relationship, they will choose not to continue our arms control, risk reduction, and nonproliferation conversations.”

Gee, no clue why they wouldn't play ball.

deeply unserious

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 20 points 4 weeks ago

These people are genuinely insane. Pure apocalyptic demons. Even cartel drug lords will have more integrity when meeting with rivals to discuss conflict lol

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

they won't continue arms control, risk reduction, and nonproliferation conversations because they don't want to just provide the US with all the information it needs to figure out how to wipe them out in a first strike

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 15 points 4 weeks ago

Not to mention the US cotes against anything that limits its arms. They tried to pass a resolution to “ban weapons in space” which Russia and China voted against because an older resolution already banned that while the US’ proposals added a bunch of bullshit that only benefits the US

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nuke the harm reduction leaving my body

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump would've fired the same number of nukes + 1!

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 71 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Jokes aside (of which I'm sure this thread is aplenty), realistically if we're expecting to be at war with China, Russia and North Korea, you know whichever lunatic president is running the murderhouse is definitely going to fire first; if we're actually expecting wholeheartedly that there'll be a nuclear confrontation, the government will absolutely fire first because in a nuclear war you always want to be the first one to fire, and we'll be doing it with countries that genuinely don't even want any confrontation, let alone a nuclear one. To the government it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when (to fire first).

Living on the same planet as America must be like trying to have a nice meal in the vicinity of someone experiencing hyper roid rage.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 1 month ago (6 children)

indeed America is the rabid dog of the global community

[–] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Problem with that rabid dog is that once you go to shoot it, it's fleas launch from it and they somehow destroy you as well.

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[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 34 points 4 weeks ago

you know whichever lunatic president is running the murderhouse is definitely going to fire first

It will happen after the first American loss

Any war will begin with a propaganda campaign that will make the ravenous countrywide bloodthirst of 2001 look positively quaint. You'd see "reasonable liberal" reporters from the NYT and MSNBC on the verge of using slurs, while Fox is straight up calling for the annihilation of all [slurs]

The very second the first US carrier is sunk by a hypersonic missile is the second the US goes into full Khornate blood rage and the president, whoever they are, begins firing every last nuclear weapon at whoever sank the carrier

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 20 points 4 weeks ago

Living on the same planet as America must be like trying to have a nice meal in the vicinity of someone experiencing hyper roid rage.

Is this implying you're not from Earth? If so, get me the fuck out of here please

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 59 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Flashback to yesterday when some lib ran wild saying just because Palantir said this same thing that it didn't mean anything

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 month ago

lol I remember that thread

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

because Palantir said this same thing [...] it didn't mean anything

wut?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There was a post yesterday about statement from Palantir that said the same thing - that the US would face a three front war. Some lemmitor lib got real reddity about how it doesn't mean anything if Palantir says that because they're a private company and not the US government.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 35 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

because they're a private company and not the US government

Because US foreign policy is never dictated by the material demands of corporations, right? RIGHT? so-true

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 28 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The wall between the government and the corporations that work for it is so thin it could be adequately described as vapor.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually, the US government is five corporations in a trenchcoat.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

and the trenchcoat is unbuttoned and unbelted

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago

parenti during one of his speeches once said something to the tune of

The interests of the US government is not aligned with the arms manufacturers, it IS the arms manufacturers

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 weeks ago

Palantir spawned from in-q-t-el. It's literally CIA.

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh shit I kind wanna go message this to them

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

You should! Lol

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 10 points 4 weeks ago

Just ping them in the thread!

[–] Ideology@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

In the quest to turn the treat machine back on, our big smart boi billionaires consider playing with MAD.

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The shift comes as the Pentagon believes China’s stockpiles will rival the size and diversity of the United States’ and Russia’s over the next decade.

except much newer and probably likely to function if you start launching yours dipshit

Unfortunately it probably doesn't take many to start nuclear winter but how much responsibility do the networks of contractors and oligarchs scamming public funds hand over fist in every other area possibly take for stockpile maintenance? the things that end the world if used?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

it really would be divine comedy if US tried to start a nuclear war and their nukes ended up failing to launch due to lack of maintenance and skills needed to keep them operational

[–] Volcatile@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Who's to say it hasn't happened already?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 4 weeks ago

as I recall two out of three recent launch tests did fail, so...

[–] joyhunter@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 weeks ago

Probably best case scenario as I struggle to see them not starting nuclear war. I mean, in practice they only have a 50% hit rate. Two in Japan and one in Spain. And the ones in Japan were fresh.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 40 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

In the event that the nukes start flying as a result of Operation Corn Pop, I would just like to say that it has been an honor and a privilege posting with all of you ladies, m'theydies, and gentlesirs. rosa-salute

[–] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago

Thank you everyone here for both shit and effort posts if I don't make it through the nuclear bombings and fallout. If I do I will try to spread as much knowledge about post-bombing electronics and how to emulate on them as I can.

[–] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

Oh that’s not at all pant shittingly terrifying.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

if these people are the ones drafting official plans, maybe there's hope the US would completely fail to persecute a nuclear war. fucks sake 4 years ago you didn't think the DPRK and China's nuclear programmes would be coordinated? that if nukes were flying toward Russia through Chinese territory the yanks could just pinky-promise to China they're for Russia and they'd keep theirs away?

so goddamned foolish. i think you could sell half the pentagon and their 'think tanks' the brooklyn bridge. simultaneously.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 month ago

yeah these people are utter imbeciles, and that's the scariest part of all this

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

Can't launch the nukes, the parliamentarian is out to lunch in Manchin's mansion

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[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the endgame for the ruling class. This is what all of this is leading to: planetary suicide.

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago

They want to end the game with the high score.

[–] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Reminder that China only pursued nukes after the US threatened to nuke Fujian province during the second Taiwan straight crises. So I guess the chickens came home to roost once again. Also, down with war mongers. China was first to make the no first use pledge 60 years ago, why won't the US to this day?

This wasn't an idle threat either by the US, they had Nike Hercules missiles, capable of carrying nuclear warheads, on the island of Taiwan.

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[–] Tofu_Lewis@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Not to add to the scary factor, and probably not related, and completely unverified: a work colleague who was a specialist in a military branch was recalled recently and were supposed to be back by now but apparently they may not be back for an undetermined amount of time.......

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 4 weeks ago

Well that's not concerning at all. Although this could very much be related to Israel doing everything they can to start a war with Iran.

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

Trump is the insane one, btw

[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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