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And then continue to not reduce any harm

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[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"We need Harris in office so that it's easier to organize to help Palestinians!"

The degree of narcissism that it takes to say this self-serving bullshit while a genocide is unfolding exclusively because your precious nation exists...

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was told we could push Biden left in 2020 thonk

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

“drag to the left kicking and screaming” was the weird turn of phrase that was always used. Seemingly always by people that had never tried to convince their old ass relatives of literally anything.

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

In all reality it probably isn't even true either. When Trump took office membership and activity of left wing organizations exploded. It was so much easier to organize people into a state of rebellion when they couldn't pretend things were fine under Trump than it has been under Biden.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

we have to support the genocide over there so we don't have a genocide over here

paid-for-by-kamala-harris

[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

They will genocide harder

[–] HexcraftDirtFarmer@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

I mean, but we have several here tho.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

But Dems are also the ones that do worse genocide over here, despite rhetoric! Obama and Biden both deported more people than GWB or Trump. Obama built the ICE concentration camps, not the republicans.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

White people have a very long history of voting in a way that throws PoC under the bus as long as whites get policies they support. These PoC are usually defined to be outside the nation itself. I refuse to continue reproducing this phenomenon. I will not vote to eradicate my Palestinian brothers and sisters. Straight up.

[–] sinstrium@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

This was one of the reasons american communists organizations/labor protests failed. So it should not be underemphasized by united statian comrades.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Another thing: in a settler colonial project the primary issue isn't class struggle, it's the settler colonialism. How is a communist going to declare the land and resources of that land for the proletariats, when the proletariats are either settlers or descendants of settlers depending on the time.

The land and resources belong to the indigenous, not to the "proletariats" in that case.

[–] sinstrium@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fictional genocide that may happen under x is more important than genocide thats happening right now with the full support of y!

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think were organized enough to not perpetuate the fourth reich right now.

[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

I agree. There is no option to reduce harm. Just don't lie to yourself and everyone else about how your expression of self-interest is actually about helping everyone else.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

So now is the time to begin setting up the resistance.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Look, we gotta gas some of the untermensches, that’ll make the bloodthirsty horde satisfied so they won’t gas all of them. What? Don’t be ridiculous, they won’t get more bloodthirsty.”

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

"The right wing doesn't have a history of demanding more blood after they found out shedding blood didn't solve their problems."

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"The issue isn't the Reich itself, it's just Hitlerism specifically! It's corrupted the actual major benefits that the Reich brings. We need to hold a select few Hitlerites to account for being excessive, not burn the whole Nazi regime to the ground! I think 99% Hitler has some really good policies that go in the right direction!"

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"And look, after we finally got rid of Hitler, the next fuhrer was Donitz who was not even 99% Hitler like our Dem fuhrers, but much less, at worst like 85% Hitler! But nooo, the damn Russkies had to come and crash everything just when it was incrementally improving!"

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

i-am-adolf-hitler

I can fix him