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[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 126 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No! Don't think about The Turtle! Look everybody! The libs are old and senile too! LOOK! [please don't look at the turtle. Nothing to see here. Nope The Turtle is fine. Look! It's a sleepy old person who is a democrat!!!]

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 174 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] donescobar@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes they do, watching him do a reboot live on TV is plain sad.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be very supportive of disallowing senior citizens from holding any public office.

Very, very supportive.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

65 is generally considered the retirement age, so my proposal that I responded to another comment with is that if you're gonna turn 65 during your hypothetical term, you're not eligible to run. It's time to sail off into the sunset or sit on your porch to yell at the kids to stay off your lawn or whatever the hell. You're no longer representative of the general population and are in no position to be crafting policy for years after your death. You did your service, now step aside and let the next generation have their turn.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

65 is also, coincidentally, the age after which the majority of strokes occur in the US. Not to say we don’t have people who aren’t awesome senior citizens (far from it!) but the stakes are so damn high for people who are in government positions, especially when you have 6-year terms or lifetime appointments and your party really, REALLY wants to hold that seat.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Absolutely.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's true, but in Mitch's case it might be that staying literally kills him. He's the minority leader in the Senate, which has got to be stressful, and if the fugue state he entered was caused by a mini-stroke, he needs to be resting and avoiding stress like a literal plague.

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[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 100 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused that she's AT the meeting.

The pharmacy near the Capitol fills prescriptions for dementia medication, and those pills are going to our representatives. If you're taking dementia medication and are an elected official, sorry, but it's time for you to go. We'll get you a watch. If you can't even remember who you are, you shouldn't be crafting our laws.

[–] docmark@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At this point it's painfully obvious that they're literal puppets for people in power who don't want their names in a public forum like congress.

It's basically Weekend at Bernie's. Except not funny at all.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Feinstein was in her 30s when California colleges (UC and CSU) officially stopped having free in-state tuition.

We have to stop being "represented" by people with very little in common with the general populace.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell that to the largest voting group that actually votes. 65+ old people aren't voting for anyone other than the oldest we have to offer and the actual larger voting group that unfortunately doesn't vote as much would rather surf IG and TikTok than give two shits about any election.

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[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Apart from being old and having dementia, she's never had real job.

Yeah, her and let-me-pause-for-a-stroke McKlowenl do not represent people who actually work for a living.

[–] givitashot@lemmynsfw.com 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

First the turtle and now this. Fucking term limits are needed!

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

We need to ban lifetime appointments while we're at it.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Nah, this has been an ongoing issue with her for months if not years. She is often confused when press is actually able to talk with her.

Geriatric mutant ninja turtle just happened to have a much more obvious and blatant episode live on national TV.

[–] oSillyScope@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

And age limits.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Term limits are absolutely needed, along with age limits on how old you can be while in office. Using 65 as an example, if you'll turn 65 while in office, too bad, you're intelligible to run.

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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AGE limits. Fuck Biden, fuck Trump, fuck Feinstein, fuck the turtle. There should be NO 80 year olds in office period.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It might sound horribly ageist, but I’m inclined to agree. Representing the interests of millions upon millions of people is an incredibly taxing and demanding job, which nobody in their 80s should still be doing; especially not without some sort of fitness test.

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[–] readbeanicecream@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not just term limits, but age limits, too. This country shouldn't be run by octogenarians who can't even recognize their own face half the time.

[–] Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

And they don't even know shit about what they're voting. Like the guy who said the internet was a bunch of tubes.

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no problem if people elect a NEW senator that's 80 years old. But after two terms your service is done. Thank you, but you gotta go.

[–] MajorJimmy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh. I don't want policy crafted by somebody who's gonna die in the next few years. Age limits as well please.

[–] mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Call me ageist, I don’t give a fuck, these people aren’t at the top of their game, hell they aren’t even at 50% of what the top of their game used to be. Furthermore, like you said, it’s absolute bullshit that people can make laws that they won’t see the effects of.

Cut off rep age at something like 60 if not 50. The younger generations should be the ones deciding the future, it’s THEIR future after all.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I'd double check term limits. We could just as easily create a chain of debauchery as we lose all experienced politicians that might be able to help. There would only be more incentives to line your own pockets when you only got 4 years. I hate seeing the extremely elderly pretend its 1978 too but I don't think term limits are the answer. I think we need more transparency on politicians, what they represent, their past actions (especially at local levels those people are nearly invisible), and most importantly we need to slit Lobbying's throat and drain all the blood just to be sure.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone assumes term limits would be something super low like 4 or 8 years. In reality, it’d probably be something like 32 years, which is 8 terms. Still long enough to get a good career, but it ensures that someone entering the senate in their 30 or 40’s will be retiring at a reasonable age. Because the current problem is that everyone should’ve retired twenty or thirty years ago.

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[–] hypelightfly@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Politicians aren't the experts, that's what they have a staff for.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Athens used single term sortition as their political methodology during the height of their empire. Anyone who wanted a government position could apply if they passed a test about their field of interest, and the winner was essentially drawn from a hat. After a single term they were dismissed and could never hold the position again.

You're overthinking this. Do you really think out of a country of 300 million plus we're likely to be limited to a few hundred competent politicians? Highly unlikely. We just need to educate people, like they did.

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[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Mandatory retirement ages, too. If pilots cannot work past 65, then neither should the president, Congress, or judges.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure she is really functional these days.

[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She seems to not know where she is half the time, she needs to resign

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[–] okfuskee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does no one know when it's time to leave the party and go home? I'd rather have a bunch of young to middle aged folks try and work things out, than the McDonalds coffee crew we currently have in the major political parties.

[–] norbert@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

These ghouls have nothing else. They're richer than God and their kids have cushy jobs. They won the game of life, all they can do now is cling to the power they've accumulated in a desperate attempt to stay relevant to a world that will be just fine without them.

They should all be Logans Run'd, starting with the Turtle.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Up vote for Logan's run reference

[–] Lammy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

When members of Congress, and sides don't matter, refuse to retire and keep having issues that prevent them from doing their jobs correctly, I believe it's news and I guess others journalists think it is too.

[–] torknorggren@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really not, but it's probably good that we get reminders that we need a more functional system in place to get rid of these folks once they are incapacitated.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

At a meeting today, Feinstein and McConnell agreed Trump's handling of classified documents might lead to him being impeached, but that bringing charges that leads to an impeachment trial is the duty of the house.

This lead to an argument with both their handlers that they were 100% correct in this assertion, and that they could not remove Trump from his current position as president without first a house vote.

Their handlers sighed and reluctantly agreed, and wheeled them away for bingo.

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First McConnell and now Feinstein, maybe it's time to implement term limits? These two should have retired long ago. (Feinstein before SOPA) Enjoy your golden years....

[–] miked@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This has been an ongoing issue for her but it usually gets hushed up.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It is amazing that such senile plants still have voters. They are probably senile, too.

[–] OnlyTakesAshot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

She needs to go! Makes no sense keeping her around when she’s not helping with anything.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Sen Dianne Feinstein appears confused at meeting

Well, that could be any meeting in the past 20+ years.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

In other news, the sky is blue and the pope is Catholic.

At least it's a bipartisan issue now...? Yay?

[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

JFC. I'm 62, but 90 year old dottards who've never worked a day in their life can't represent me

We need age limits. But we won't get them because the reps are all farting dust and slurping at the gravy trough.

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