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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 180 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I won't believe a single headline about Trump doing poorly. Not until after Kamala wins and is sworn in without another coup attempt. Anything short of that is delusional. Go out and vote, people.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 56 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Unless he literally hangs himself. Then, please notify me immediately.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago

I'll bring the spinach artichoke dip

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

my prediction:

Chokes on a hamburger while sitting on his gold shitter. The cacophony that ensues will be dismissed for another truth social posting. He'll be found the next day.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

His final post: Choking on my burg ne covfefe

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Fuck the polls, fuck the analysts

go fucking vote

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep. I've been forever hardened into a political and legal cynic starting with hanging chads and most recently, with the lack of Jan 6 accountability for Trump.

Biden dropping out was a wonderful and pleasant surprise. I was NOT getting my hopes up that he would step down, especially given the DNC's tendency to fuck up what should be easy wins.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 175 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Where’s the media constantly asking him if he will drop out the way they asked Biden?

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 59 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't really get all the negative press the guy is getting from the left spun media. His supporters aren't disappearing.... instead they're coming out of the woodwork and showing their true colors that they've sworn all along isn't how they are. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more voters this year than any year before showing up for the biggest asshole to be elected president in my lifetime. Also the only one term president in my lifetime from voters because he is hated that much by the other half.

To so many conservatives racism doesn't exist. They aren't against black people or foreigners... but they are literally coming out front and center to be anti-black, especially since the pandemic era BLM protests. Springfield Ohio is just another perfect example of how racism not only exists, but is celebrated by about half the country. It's just insane that it isn't even shunned.

My favorite line from the debate was when dumpy said "we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums and they’re coming and they’re taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics" Are you fucking kidding me? Minimum and sub-minimum wage jobs are now "black and hispanic" jobs? That's what you're trying to force american citizens into? very low paying, low qol, minimum healthcare roles with no chance of advancement and no hope for a better future. Make america great again and bring back slavery right?

Sorry for the rant, I just can't believe how monstrous humans can be. There's just no more rational discourse or anything resembling sane critical thinking anymore in the media. It's all just outrage fuel and inane distractions. On the left media sites they keep saying it's doomsday for trump. They said he couldn't beat Hillary too and she had an even bigger point lead ahead of the election https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_110716/

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

We have to start admitting to ourselves, that as a species, we're still closer to nature than we are some amazing spacefaring civilization.


The thing is, I actually disagree here:

To so many conservatives racism doesn’t exist.

I've been around these people long enough to understand that's just not fucking true. They like to present it out in public like it is, but deep down, just like Trump, they're keenly aware of exactly how racist they are, they just don't like being called a racist. Its' about power. They want the power to be racist without being called racist. It's the same reason so many of them are legitimately fucking rapists.

Just like rape, it's not about sex, it's about power and control. They get off on the expression of power over others, whether its rape or anything else, anything where they can lord it over you, make you feel small, ashamed, and like you must do what they say because they have power over you. They fucking revel in it, and the lies about how they're not racist are to support that. Everything is a means to an end. That end is the Handmaid's Tale or worse. That's why they don't actually care about being racist, because racism itself is just an extension of having power over other people. It's just a racial way of dominance and control, it's just one of many ways to exert power over others and dominate them. The bottom line is it is always about power and control.

Further, I would blame the media landscape of the last 50 years, which has done a piss poor job of defining what a racist is, using the most extreme character tropes imaginable, so that actual racists can say to themselves "well I'm not like that wild caricature of a racist like Ulfric Stormcloak, so therefore I'm not racist."


As to your main point, I agree, there's enough terrible fucking people in the USA (and the world) to make this freak President again.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically this. There's a lot of racists who assume that since they're not burning a cross or lynching every Black person they meet, they're JUST NOT RACISTS.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums

My favorite part is the reason this dumb fuck says that is he doesn't understand what "political asylum" is.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That wasn't the media, that was everyone, to be fair. I voted for him in the first term, and I was very vocal about him dropping out.

But yeah, it's crazy that there isn't a chorus of GOP folks demanding the same.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He can't. Biden dropped out before the convention, he wasn't yet nominated or accepted it. Trump is the nominee.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)

What would happen if he did drop out? Have we ever had a presidential election that went uncontested?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

I guess JD Couchfucker would take over. So, yeah, pretty close to uncontested. Even the crazies don't like him.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (9 children)

The republicans would have to find someone new, really quickly.

Trump will never drop out though.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

But the cheeseburgers could catch up to him at any moment. He's old AF and looks to be in terrible shape.

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[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He could drop out, but his name would still be on the ballots like RFK Jr. Rs would have to run a write-in campaign, and that's asking a lot from the average republican voter

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[–] b3an@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Or how he’s SO OLD and DEMENTIC and will die any moment. Fragile snowflake Republicans.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 137 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love how his campaign is spiraling out of control, yet every poll that comes out still has them in a statistical tie. I'd like it to spiral a little quicker please.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Both things can be true.

...What we've found for the last 10 years or so now is that when it comes to Republican candidates, and especially Trump, reality no longer matters. At all. There are 743,000 things that should have disqualified him for president. That Republicans should have noped out on, said "this is definitely not our guy". They just don't matter. For a number of reasons.

His campaign could be literally a dog shitting on a US flag. And it wouldn't change anything; he would still poll virtually the same. There are almost no actual "undecideds" leaning towards him.

At this point, it's about voter motivation and access. His guys CAN be less motivated to vote, and Harris supporters can definitely be more motivated to vote. That's where we are.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Thanks. And I was having such a great week.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The guy they are quoting is acting like this a new phenomenon, but it's always been like this. Trump has always listened to the wackiest people. When he won the first time around, though, the Republican "establishment" won along with him and put some of their people on his cabinet. Now, Trump has driven away most of those old-guard Republicans, and all that is left are the loonies. So they are more visible this time around, but it's definitely not new.

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It’s kinda like George Lucas. Everyone was shocked when the prequels came out with how bad they were but if you look into the original trilogy he had equally crazy ideas, he was just kept in check by a team because he wasn’t such a success he couldn’t have ALL the reigns.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you ever get rich, hire someone whose job it is to tell you no and keep you humble.

I am currently booked solid. Alas, pro bono.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's the thing. Once you get rich, you'll just see that guy as a nuisance and get rid of him. Source: all of human history.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
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[–] detinu@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

We keep getting these reports yet the race is still 50/50. He might still win. I feel like he can call Kamala the n word and it still wouldn't affect his chances.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

This is the kind of world we live in today. The GOP has lost its mind and a large portion of the USA backs that.

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I think if he dropped N bombs even more people would vote for him. Too many racists.

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

That's what is scary, especially with another part about all the shady yet very real ways he could win.

  • Despite him looking like and absolute baffoon Everytime he talks, and all the blatant lies and dripple, coupled with getting manhandled in the debate, all the lawsuits...the polls are still disturbingly close

  • Some states have enacted laws to literally meddle with votes and counts to the point some can absolutely reject the outcome

  • States passing laws to allow them to purposely delay the counts long enough that no one hits 270, it goes to court and scotus, or have Congress/house vote

  • Very real possibility if Harris does hit 270 first that Jan 6th becomes a slap fight by comparison to an actual coup attempt

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like rapists. Never have. They are simply too rapey for my tastes.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

contributor Ed Luce suggested the former president has quickly become his own worse enemy.

Should be worst, but we can’t afford copy editors anymore and I hate it.

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Let them poison AI with bad grammar.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the way, sprinkle random nonsense into your statements. Glue on pizza for days. capcom.

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

It was the worse of time, it was the better of time.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

All this negative news about trump everywhere makes me nervous. Don't forget how confident everyone was when Hillary ran. Most, including myself, didn't think trump stood a chance.

Kamala hasn't won yet. It's still close. And trump has an unswayable cult behind him that see all this negativity as fuel to vote even harder.

Dont get complacent or overconfident. trump could still win.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish this headline was only 4 words long

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

trump is hanging himself

it's figurative

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[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Cool now do it with a real rope.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've been real happy to see the nationwide composite polls and predictions slide to Harris' favor.

Stuff like 538 and 270towin were stagnant Trump advantages for so many monthsm

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Really? Because the polls are pretty tight still. 47% to 44% per the BBC is not exactly spiraling out of control.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Real polls take time. True opinion polls take at a minimum 2 weeks to conduct sufficient sampling and do analysis on and prep for release. You won't see the full effect of the debate results in polls until, at the earliest, end of next week.

And at the end of the day the only poll that matters is the one on November 5th...

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 6 points 2 months ago

The popcorn factory has laid on extra shifts to meet demand

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